Some of the 1960s teenybopper stuff is actually really good!

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  1. Joshua277456

    Joshua277456 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Yeah, believe it or not, original mono Lesley Gore albums can be quite expensive. I've seen California Nights go to up $40 for a used, minty copy. I think someone on eBay is currently selling a sealed stereo copy for close to $100! I got a steal getting the original mono still sealed for only $20.
     
  2. Joshua277456

    Joshua277456 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Glad there are people on this forum who recognize her talent. She's a wonderful singer, and she even wrote a few of her songs!
     
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  3. John54

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    Not true. Most of the "teenybopper" songs listed in the thread arrived after the Beatles.

    What is true is that 1960-61 was full of rather immature stuff (I call it the Stupid Cupid era, not that that's a terrible song). But things were picking up nicely by 1962, and 1963 was a wonderful year for pop music. Then the British Invasion came along to improve things even more!
     
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  4. geo50000

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    I'll see your "Maybe I Know" and raise you a "Look Of Love"...
     
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  5. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    yes, a good one also...but mine is better!
     
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  6. T'mershi Duween

    T'mershi Duween Forum Resident

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    Anyone remember when they put the Archies' Sugar Sugar on the back of the Super Sugar Crisps cereal box? That was as my very first "record". :D

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  7. RonBaker

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    Lesley Gore: Add "You Don't Own Me" to the mix...one of the greatest of her records (although there are plenty)!
    Shangri-Las "Remember Walking in the Sand" teenage angst. Still sounds good to me (just played it today)
    The 60s had some of the very best records...so did the 50s...after that, it was hit and miss.
     
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  8. notesofachord

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    Another great artist/band from the '6os "teenybopper" scene:

    Gary Lewis & The Playboys!!
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  9. geo50000

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    Gary Lewis & The Playboys - "I Won't Make That Mistake Again"...
    A great B-side, coulda been an A-side...
     
  10. rockledge

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    That is because musicians back then were far less inhibited about trying to be contrived to fit a certain mold.
    It seems that now there is far too much attempt to avoid being viewed as someone who listens to "that" kind of music.

    Its My Party brings back a memory for me. I remember a group of kids standing in a circle with one of them holding a transistor radio, waiting for that song to come on. Just standing their talking. When it came on cheers went up.
    Because it was a WAY cool song. And those who were "cool" liked it. Nobody thought of it as "teenybopper". It was just cool music.
    And, last time I seen Leslie Gore on TV ( which was not that long ago) she was STILL a very nice looking lady.
     
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  11. RonBaker

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    One of my best friends from high school (I graduated in 1970) and I were talking about music a couple months ago. We didn't differentiate between the Doors and the Ohio Express back then...if the music was good we liked it...it didn't have to be "important" or cool.
     
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  12. notesofachord

    notesofachord Riding down the river in an old canoe

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    WOW!! What a great tune! I'd never heard it until now. That keyboard riff that rises and falls reminds me of this great tune by The Idle Race:

     
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  13. sons of nothing

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    I grew up in the 80's listening to all the 50's and 60's stuff, and still enjoy it. Thank you, Mr Dick Biondi. I'm sure a great deal of Chicagoland feels the same. He is often credited as being the first DJ to spin the Beatles on this side of the pond. Being that Vee Jay came out of Gary, Indiana (right over the border) it makes sense. Imagine having the actual record he first spun.

    I went looking for his "Pizza Song" and came across what was labeled as the FIRST BEATLES BROADCAST. (maybe this deserves it's own thread...)
    Not sure if 100% first broadcast legit, but still cool to have an actual vintage broadcast from the era. Go to just beforen the 6 min mark.

     
  14. John54

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    All those Lesley Gore songs are great but That's The Way Boys Are rules!
     
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  15. TLMusic

    TLMusic Musician & record collector

    Arranged by Claus Ogerman.

    Produced by the great Quincy Jones.

    I mean, we're talking top tier...
     
  16. Joshua277456

    Joshua277456 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    1950s and 1960s all the way! I love both decades and 90% of my music collection is from these two decades
     
  17. TLMusic

    TLMusic Musician & record collector

    This live version of "Maybe I Know" nicely showcases her strong singing. It's interesting to hear her solo voice, without the usual studio multi-track overdubbed vocals.

     
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  18. goodiesguy

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    Thanks for the post, I had completely forgot this Lesley Gore tune. It's one of my favorites of hers, although for some reason It's been out of my memory for about 4 years. Thanks for helping me rediscover that classic.
     
  19. geo50000

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    I'm glad you brought this up...
    While there can be no dispute that Dick Biondi was an early champion of the Beatles in the U.S., something about this aircheck rings false.
    The "Please Please Me" segment sounds , at least to me, "flown in " from a possibly later aircheck.
    From the beginning to the end, it sounds like it was edited in.
    I'm probably wrong, but...???
     
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  20. ajsmith

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    The tune of the Gary Lewis song also kind of reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ArGiY-MOwY
     
  21. DEAN OF ROCK

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    Great thread!
     
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  22. Eli

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    A lot of that early '60s teen music was musically great, because the songs were often written by professional songwriters and the arrangements were penned by classically trained maestros. That might be my favorite era of music—I love the combination of youthful vocalists, rock rhythms, and orchestral arrangements.
     
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  23. drbryant

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    I think that this thread is using "teenybopper" too broadly. I don't think Gary Lewis falls in the category; nor do the Beatles or Lesley Gore or the Shangrilas. I think that "Teenybopper" music as used in the 60's refers to music targeted at young girl (a teenybopper). It's odd to call all early 60's pop/rock (Beatles, Beach Boys, Four Seasons, etc) "teenybopper" music because it wasn't specifically targeted at young girls. Music targeted at "teenyboppers" as a target audience would be, I think, acts like Donny Osmond, Davy Jones, Bobby Sherman, David Cassidy. Not to be confused with "bubble gum" like the Archies, Tommy James and the Banana Splits, or "girl groups" like the Supremes, Shangri-Las, or Leslie Gore. "Teen pop" might be an accurate broader category.
     
  24. Joshua277456

    Joshua277456 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    If you want to go strictly by the definition then yes, it is being used somewhat broadly. But I have to disagree with you saying that Lesley Gore wasn't teenybopper. She had two albums named Girls, Girls, Girls and Girl Talk, if that isn't considered teenybopper, then I don't know what is.

    According the Wikipedia, "The term was introduced in the 1950s[3] to refer to teenagers who mainly listened to pop music and/or rock and roll and not much else. Teenybopper became widely used again in the late 1960s and early 1970s, following an increase in the marketing of pop music, teen idols and fashions aimed specifically at younger girls, generally 10–17 years old.[4][2]"

    [2] Brake 1980, p. 143.
    [3] Zimmer, Ben (2010-05-28). "Cool". The New York Times. Retrieved 2011-05-20.
    [4] Hall & Jefferson 1993, p. 220.

    So it can mean either boys or girls, depending on the context. And it originally referred to both pop and rock & roll music. "Tennybopper" carried over from the 1950s to the 1960s, and only in the late 1960s did the meaning significantly change.
     
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  25. Joshua277456

    Joshua277456 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Also, if the Beatles weren't technically teenybopper, they sure did a good job of attracting a hell of a lot young girls when they first arrived in the US.
     
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