The new Sony UHP-H1 plays everything - Blu-ray, SACD, CD, even DVD-Audio

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  1. BMWCCA

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    I'm unable to find any reference to whether or not an iPod will work in the front-panel USB jack. Anyone?
     
  2. raq0915

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    Havent looked into this at all, but unless its 4k uhd capable (not upscaling) or 3d blu ray, Im out
     
  3. This Heat

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    Does it decode HDCD?
     
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  4. sparkydog

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    Just snagged a new one for $160 in "damaged package" from Amazon Warehouse Deals.
     
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  5. randy9700

    randy9700 Indian MC Rider!


    (From the Sony website) ALAC: Yes (BD, DVD, CD, USB, DLNA). I read this to be that ALAC is readable by way of disc, USB and DLNA so take that for what it is worth. That said, I whould have mine by early next week if not the end of this week and I will check it out...Randy
     
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  7. randy9700

    randy9700 Indian MC Rider!

    I would be surprised (pleasantly) if it did decode HDCD. It was never mainstream and even less so now. At this price point it would be a huge bonus....
     
  8. sunspot42

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    Microsoft killed HDCD, so don't look for any hardware support going forward...
     
  9. BMWCCA

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    Thanks!
     
  10. sparkydog

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    Dumb question maybe. Will the video HDMI out work with a HDMI-input flat screen computer monitor instead of a television?
     
  11. randy9700

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    I can't think of any reason it wouldn't...
     
  12. johnny q

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    This looks like a great machine for that price. However, I learned via another thread that this machine adds silence between tracks when playing files from hard drives via the USB input. My Yamaha BluRay player does the same thing. Are there any machines in this price range that does not insert silence??
     
  13. High Fidelity

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    I would not touch Oppo with a barge pole same goes for Cambridge Audio
     
  14. John1026

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    Has anyone tested the analog outputs of this unit to hear how good the D/A converter is?
     
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  16. Olias of Sunhill

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    I grabbed one from Crutchfield as well. This lets me move my BDP-95 to the office, where I'll actually take advantage of its analog outs (it's HDMI only in the living room, which is a waste).
     
  17. sparkydog

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    I missed the model you referenced. I humbly apologize. Let me ask a Gort to wipe that comment.
     
  18. RocketUSA

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    So, quick edit. If you're not using this with any video out, is there any way to tell which layer of an SACD you're playing? Does it default to the SACD layer on playback? I'm thinking of primarily using it in an audio only set-up. In that situation, does Sony's DSEE HX automatically upscale CD audio? Should I really care?
     
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  19. formu_la

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    I would buy one gladly , but information from forum members that it doesn't deal well with multichannel files from external hard drives stopped me.
     
  20. dbsea

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    My cheap Sony bdp bx58 from 2011 has a setting to determine which layer to play by default. I'd be shocked if this model doesn't have the same. I'll find out tomorrow and update this thread (I couldn't pass up the $199 price).
     
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  21. Tartifless

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    It definitely has the option in the settings to define the default sacd version to read: stereo or multichannel (at least it's in the user manual).
    Before i purchase this i still have a question i really need to be sure, so i will ask someone who actually owns this player to answer if possible.

    1) Can the UHP H1 output sound from the stereo sacd layer through the spdif output in PCM or not ? (i have read that the spdif outputs are disabled when reading sacd).
    2) What is the highest bit depth / frequency that i can get through a spdif connection (if answer to question 1 is yes) ?

    Thanks in advance for your feedback.
    Benoit
     
  22. wwaldmanfan

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    In the audio setttings, you choose the default layer of a dual-layer SACD to automatically play: DSD or redbook. You preselect the output format: DSD or PCM. You preselect the maximum resolution of the internal DAC. Obviously, you would set it for 24/196.
    I don't have a DSD DAC, but I can tell you this much: when you play a SACD, it outputs 24/176.4 through the HDMI output. It does play simultaneously through the S/PDIF outputs (coax & optical), but it plays the REDBOOK layer. The bit depth/sample rate maxes out at 24/48 through the S/PDIF outputs, regardless of the source disk. Sony tech support confirmed this when I called them. However, you get the higher resolution through the analog outputs.
    I don't have any single-layer SACD's, so I don't know if or how it would play them through the S/PDIF outputs.
    I hope this explaination is clear.
     
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  23. randy9700

    randy9700 Indian MC Rider!

    Thanks!
     
  24. Kyhl

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    I think the 24/176.4 has become the standard for DSD to PCM. From the JRiver Wiki, they translate DSD to 64/352.8. Eventually it will need to be converted to 24 bit and cut down to a sample rate that most DACs can use, 192k or less. 176.4 is 352.8/2, a simpler conversion. Defaulting to 24/176.4 seems like the best options when converting.
     
  25. Tartifless

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    Ok so that confirms it: it's impossible to output the sacd layer through spdif output, only the redbook layer.

    I picked it up today and tried the following: hooked up the hdmi output to the TV and the optical out from the TV to my amp: No sound when playing a sacd, but got sound when playing a normal cd.
    Then i tried to use the RCA out from my tv to my amp: got sound both when reading sacd and normal CD.

    Conclusion: the sacd layer is quite locked and cannot be passed through spdif connection, only RCA.
    (for information i have setup the output to PCM)

    My next test will be to use a HDMI de-embedder and try to get the sound from sacd layer via HDMI to it and then through spdif to my amp, but i don't think that this will work... I guess the only way to get sacd playback is through the RCA connection.
     
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