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Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by George P, May 29, 2015.

  1. layman

    layman Forum Resident

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    New York, NY
    This recording is on my list of Brahms recordings to get. I look forward to hearing your opinion on it.

    I just got this today and am looking forward to listening to it:
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    Brahms was a pianist/composer. The versions of his Symphonies that he prepared for two pianos are quite revealing and offer very useful insight into the pieces. The recordings of the piano versions of the symphones on Naxos are worth getting:
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  2. dale 88

    dale 88 Errand Boy for Rhythm

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    west of sun valley
    disc 3
    Bamberg Symphony: The First 70 Years
    DGG, 2016
    01 - (13:13) Mozart: Piano Concerto No. 24 in C Minor, K.491 1. (Allegro) - Wilhelm Kempff, Bamberg Symphony Orchestra & Ferdinand Leitner
    02 - (7:05) Mozart: Piano Concerto No. 24 in C Minor, K.491 2. Larghetto - Wilhelm Kempff, Bamberg Symphony Orchestra & Ferdinand Leitner
    03 - (10:26) Mozart: Piano Concerto No. 24 in C Minor, K.491 3. (Allegretto) - Wilhelm Kempff, Bamberg Symphony Orchestra & Ferdinand Leitner
    04 - (8:49) Mozart: Rondo for Piano and Orchestra in A, K.386 - Carl Seemann, Bamberg Symphony Orchestra & Fritz Lehmann
    05 - (7:31) Mozart: Symphony No.40 in G Minor, K.550,1. Molto Allegro - Joseph Keilberth & Bamberg Symphony Orchestra
    06 - (8:22) Mozart: Symphony No.40 in G Minor, K.550, 2. Andante - Joseph Keilberth & Bamberg Symphony Orchestra
    07 - (4:22) Mozart: Symphony No.40 in G Minor, K.550 3. Menuetto (Allegretto) - Trio - Joseph Keilberth & Bamberg Symphony Orchestra
    08 - (5:01) Mozart: Symphony No.40 in G Minor, K.550 4. Finale (Allegro Assai) - Joseph Keilberth & Bamberg Symphony Orchestra
     
  3. alankin1

    alankin1 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Philly
    Now playing:
    William Schuman – Symphony No. 7
    — Seattle Symphony – Gerard Schwarz (Naxos American Classics)

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  4. drh

    drh Talking Machine

    He also arranged at least the first piano concerto for 4 hands. There's a nice recording by Claire Aebersold and Ralph Neiweem (names not otherwise familiar to me) on Summit DCD 184.
     
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  5. dale 88

    dale 88 Errand Boy for Rhythm

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    Wolfram Schmitt-Leonardy, piano
    Chopin: Complete Piano Sonatas, Nos. 1-3
    Brilliant Classics, 2017

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  6. dale 88

    dale 88 Errand Boy for Rhythm

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    Emil Gilels (or Emile Guillels as it appears on the Columbia albums)
    Beethoven: Concerto No. 3
    Rachmaninov: Concerto No. 3
    Andre Cluytens
    Paris Conservatoire Orchestra
    Erato, 2017
    recorded 1954 & 1955
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  7. bruce2

    bruce2 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Connecticut, USA
    I am listening to the new Brahms symphonies by Nelsons and the Boston Symphony now. So far I have listened to the third and fourth symphonies. In my opinion these recordings are a real winner and I would recommend them. Excellent detail and beauty to the playing and sound. Even at high volume the sound quality is great. How is your new Brahms Violin Concerto and Sonata disc?
     
  8. layman

    layman Forum Resident

    Location:
    New York, NY
    Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

    So far I have only had a chance to listen to it once. I have not had time to form an opinion overall but I am dazzled by Gluzman's violin playing. I look forward to a second listen.
     
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  9. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    Enjoying this lovely set again.
     
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  10. dale 88

    dale 88 Errand Boy for Rhythm

    Location:
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    Martin Martineau, piano
    with the nine singers on the cover.
    Faure: Songs, Vol. 2
    Signum, 2017
    Martineau is really excellent at the piano.
     
  11. dale 88

    dale 88 Errand Boy for Rhythm

    Location:
    west of sun valley
    Disc 8
    L'Art de Gendron
    Decca, 2015
    Dvorak: Cello Concerto; Rondo; Le Silence
    Haydn: Cello Concerto, Op. 104
    recorded 1967
    Maurice Gendron
    London Philharmonic
    Bernard Haitink

    always loved this performance of the Dvorak with Haitink.
     
  12. dale 88

    dale 88 Errand Boy for Rhythm

    Location:
    west of sun valley
    Vernon Handley
    Royal Philharmonic
    Bantock: Celtic Symphony; The Witch of Atlas; The Sea Reivers; A Hebridean Symphony
    Hyperion, 1990
    an excellent Tony Faulkner recording
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  13. drh

    drh Talking Machine

    Been revisiting an old friend from my college days: a London LP called "Battle Imperial" by harpsichordist Jonathan Woods. Anybody remember this one?

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    The title piece is by Cabanilles, but I bought it for an exciting account of Soler's "Fandango" that back then got quite a bit of airplay on the old KLEF-FM in Houston--not terribly surprising, I suppose, because Woods was a native Texas son, around that time residing in Dallas after having spent some time in Mexico, among other places, and this was his debut recording. He played what must have been a monster of a harpsichord, built in 1964 by Rutkowski and Robinette of New York, with two manuals; seven pedals; and 16-foot, dual 8-foot, and 4-foot registers in addition to buff and lute stops. Not, I suppose, terribly "authentic," but definitely packed a punch, particularly at the lower end. Woods seems to be another of those discographic one-trick-ponies; I've seen nothing else by him since and can find no trace of him of any substance on the Web outside the recording I already have (image courtesy of Discogs.com). Anybody else, maybe from our Texas wing, know anything about what became of him? He certainly knew how to put a work across, and it's surprising to me he would have vanished so completely.
     
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  14. Wes H

    Wes H Forum Resident

    Location:
    Virginia
    That harpsichord description reminds me of the pedal harpsichord that Biggs played on this 1966 LP...

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    Specs:
    Manual I: 16’, 8’, 8’, 4’
    Manual II: 8’
    Pedal: 16’, 8’, 4'

    Built by John Challis
     
  15. dale 88

    dale 88 Errand Boy for Rhythm

    Location:
    west of sun valley
    Serge Baudo
    Czech Philharmonic Orchestra
    Honegger: The Symphonies; Pacific 231; Mouvement symphonique No. 3; Prelude pour la Tempete de Shakespeare
    Supraphon, 1991
    2 cds
    well-played

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  16. drh

    drh Talking Machine

    Probably more like this one, which also features an onboard 16-foot register but no pedal case (a feature occasionally--or rarely--added for the benefit of organists looking to practice without paying somebody to pump the bellows of the local church organ back in the days before electric blowers):

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    Later, pedal pianos were built for the same reason. Schumann wrote some pieces for that instrument.

    Anent the Biggs, have you ever heard his two records of Scott Joplin on the pedal hpd.? As he puts it in the notes of one or the other, "The instrument of the salon meets the music of the saloon." Great fun, if not necessarily what one would want as a "primary" recording of that music.

    [edit] In this Scarlatti recording, Newman, by the by, follows the lead of seemingly most harpsichordists and just about all pianists by ignoring the Kirkpatrick pairings, although if memory serves he accidentally does include the components of one or two pairs, albeit split apart by other sonatas.
     
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  17. alankin1

    alankin1 Forum Resident

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    Franz Schubert – Sonata in A major D.959 Op. Posth. and Klavierstuck E flat minor D.946/1
    Richard Goode (piano) (Electra/Nonesuch)

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  18. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    NYC
    Now enjoying:

    Beethoven
    First Symphony
    Wand/NDR orchestra
    RCA
     
  19. dale 88

    dale 88 Errand Boy for Rhythm

    Location:
    west of sun valley
    Karel Ancerl
    Dvorak: Symphony No. 6; My Home; Hussite Overture; Carnival
    Czech Philharmonic
    Supraphon, 2003
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  20. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

    Location:
    CT, USA
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  21. Wes H

    Wes H Forum Resident

    Location:
    Virginia
    A "pedal piano"... I don't believe I've ever encountered that. Are there any recordings out there?

    I've not heard Bigg's records of Scott Joplin on pedal harpsichord, but I bet they're a blast. I do have another of his albums with that instrument (below) where he takes on various classical works. I bought this in 1971 and enjoyed it back then... not so much now. The pic is from Discogs (my copy is Columbia, not "CBS").

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    I don't think anything on that album was meant to be played on harpsichord, so it can be rather jarring to hear these arrangements the first time. The pedal case, though, gives it some much-needed depth. As you advised with the Joplin LP, this is definitely NOT what one would want as a primary recording of any of these works! ;)
     
  22. drh

    drh Talking Machine

    I have a couple that at least present the music. One is on organ:

    Schumann: Four Sketches for Pedal Piano, op. 58. Ellsasser, organ. MGM E3007, 12" mono LP

    The other is a couple of excerpts from op. 56 played by Adelina de Lara in a big box set on Pearl (students of Clara Schumann). Presumably she played them on a standard piano. Not at home, so can't check what I might have on CD.
     
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  23. drh

    drh Talking Machine

    OK, home now, and I can add one more recording, but again in transcription: Peter and Annie Frankl perform both sets of studies as 4 hands works in CD set VoxBox3 CD3X 3001.

    A quick look at Amazon turned up a handful of other recordings by duo pianists and organists but only one actually on the pedal piano. It includes works by other composers as well:

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    I haven't heard it--but I will in due course; I just ordered a used copy from a marketplace seller in Germany.
     
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  24. Wes H

    Wes H Forum Resident

    Location:
    Virginia
    If I am imagining a pedal piano correctly, it would present (on the pedals) some doubling of the lower octaves of a piano in this separate (foot played) case. If the foot part is played on a second piano, then it would seem that the second player could handle their part entirely with their left hand. All this would likely provide for some rather bass-heavy music!

    Anyway, I ordered the VoxBox of Schumann's "Complete Works For Piano 4-Hands." A lot of music here I've not heard. Thanks for the tip! :righton:
     
  25. drh

    drh Talking Machine

    Always glad to spend somebody else's money ;). By the by, if you want more info, have a look at the Wikipedia article on "pedal piano"--I did earlier and learned quite a bit from it--inter alia that the Saint-Saens 2d pno. cto. started off life as a cto. for pedal pno. and or. The article also has several interesting photos of these rare beasts in their various guises. Pedal piano - Wikipedia
     
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