Don't be naive, you know the penalties are much stiffer than for the powder that results when the case is...uh, pulverized I guess...
Yes, the middle hub that is on a swivel is made of a different plastic than the ones that hold discs 1 and 3. Essentially, the hub for disc 2 is just a loose, plastic page that moves like the old Dick's Picks. They are however more sturdy and made of higher quality material than the Dick Picks, but the "teeth" that hold disc 2 in place are of a different nature than that of the hubs holding discs 1 and 3. As a matter of fact, I don't think I have ever seen this type of holding device for a multi-cd collection. It is obvious that they wanted the mobile hub that holds the second disc to have more "strength" and "solidity" since the second disc will be moving back and forth unlike the first and theirs discs, but it seems that Rhino over compensated and now we are dealing with the issue of literally not being able to remove the second disc for listening without either breaking the "teeth", which then you don't have the ability to safely house the disc, or in many cases, the force require to remove the CDs is so great that the disc simply snaps into pieces, which happened to me twice! As stated, I thought it was just me, but now I know personally several people who have second discs as well.... Again, I really hope that this is resolved because I think the word was finally getting out that we were all going to have another shot at collecting all of the Road Trips Series! An exciting and wonderful time to be a Deadhead collector... And these releases were really the cherry on top of the pie! There are a great number of the DEADicated that did not have the opportunity to get these the first time around.
As others have said, we certainly appreciate you providing some background information here @realgoneguy, thanks! Digipaks or slim jewel cases would be great, but I agree that the fatboy jewel cases (without the hub issue) are much preferred over cardboard sleeves. And if you ever had to use cardboard sleeves, including an inner sleeve to help avoid scratches/scuffs would be much appreciated. Now if only you could convince the Dead organization to let you reissue the bonus discs.
I had the same problem as you. My disc 2 cracked when I tried to remove it from the Case. I purchased mine from Collectors Choice Music.
I'm going to show the guy at B&N these posts and I'm going to suggest breaking the hub to save the disc 2 - giving me the unharmed disc 2. I'm wondering if I put it back on the hub again if it will get stuck again?!?!
I remember back in the day sometimes needing to push down hard on the center of the hub to free up the disc rather than lifting the disc from the edges. I still have the same habit (but I generally only need to free up a disc once to rip).
Been ruminating about the famous second set from Barton Hall 5/8/77. Unlike most of you the first time I heard it was this year a couple of days after 5/8 when I received the GSTL box. A few times through the whole box and listening to the whole second set Sunday (disc 2) and this morning to the rest (disc 3) has me thinking this show is what some say it is - and topped off by a Morning Dew that had me screaming. And who cares if Jerry doesn't hit it perfectly before the mid Song solo. The last 6 minutes is pure magic. The whole set is magic. As great as 5/7 & 5/9 are, the famous show might be the most famous for a reason other than the fact the tapes sounded so great. I actually think the tiny missteps like Donna singing ladyfingers early in St. Stephen or the similar gaffe in Dancing make it them more human.
At your service, young warewolf. It can be hard to appreciate the feel of the live show, and harder still to put oneself in that state of mind while listening to a show. What I miss the most are the beautiful women dancing to the music, all that free and ecstatic feminine energy is an overlooked dimension of GD shows. And I do not mean anything sexual, but the sensuality and the Yin NRG.
The girl at the store where I had mine replaced got it off without breaking it too, but she, and your guy, had the extra advantage of knowing ahead of time that a CD could break in half while trying to remove it. And as they used to say on G.I. Joe, "Knowing is half the battle".
Now can you put it back on the hub & take it off without breaking it? Unlike other modern types here, I play my CDs
I'm sure there are dancing women at Dead and Friends shows, or whatever they're called...what I miss most is Jerry Garcia.
I am certainly inclined to agree with this at this point. However, I still have yet to find something that tickles my fancy as much as DiP 4.
When I'm in a 1970 mood, I'm all into Dick's 4. Great sounding recording as well. Bear 2-tracks from 1969-70 and fall 72 rule.
The girl at the shop swapped the case out for a different one that didn't have the problem. She struggled to get it out too, but, again, she had the upperhand of prior knowledge.
Now this is like a challenge, I want to get RT4.4 just to see if I could get disc 2 out successfully.
It does say "Dead Freaks Unite" - it was a blurb for the mailing list. You sent your name and address to: Dead Heads P.O. Box 1065 San Rafael, CA 94901 ETA: Hoo! Found a pic of it:
"Deadhead" has been around at least since 1980. Great band, BTW. The Teen Idles. Henry Rollins handles equipment. The "driving that train" interlude is more of an homage.
I had to do this with the Garcia Live 9 I got the other day. But that is a digipack. After all the horror stories I heard here I was still very careful with it.
