+1. With a corrected Heroes there are no real problems with the box. Some questionable mastering choices seemingly based on TV:s own vision of how the music should have sounded when it was originally released, but because of/in spite of that a pretty interesting listen. That's not to say I wouldn't have preferred the same approach as with the previous boxes, only that I will be ok with this one when the only real error has been fixed. Good thing I bought it as a download and from a site that allows multiple downloads of a purchased album. Hope the replacement file will be ready soon.
It means 'we did our best to ignore the fault, ignore the criticism, and ignore the retailers baying for our blood because lets face it, replacements don't buy yacht's and now have caved in to the pressure'. I am happy they have decided to fix this but it changes nothing in terms of them lying to us all.
I think we should all be quite vocal about asking them to fix the compression/peak limiting on the new remaster too - it's a chance for them to actually do it right now. The "glitch version" will still be there for people to listen to if they want it cranked up and compressed, but it will also be a chance to get a more natural sounding version out to the public too.
With all the brickwalled CDs manifactured every year, what makes you think that they actually care? For record companies, that is not a mistake.
There is every chance they won't care, but people said the same thing about them fixing the heroes error and the complaints were loud enough for them to fix it. They certainly aren't going to do it without being pushed, though.
Sorry but it'll never happen. Think of the cost of starting from scratch. Think of the energy. It'd take an indie audiophile company to get it right on an album by album basis (as discussed above). But I reckon the licence cost might be prohibitive. All we can hope is that a few people at Parolophone get red-faces. But I really wonder how many will not buy this box, because my guess is that a mere 1% of buyers are audiophiliacs.
Is there a need to start from scratch? It's all digital, you just master it again without the final stages of compression & peak limiting. They will have to roll back what they've done for 1 track. If I was in charge I'd be making sure every processing stage had a backup to reverse the next stage if need be. That's what I would do, although I am not a mastering engineer, but what I just said would make sense for working with digital processess.
A volume drop, or whatever is that glitch on Heroes, is an obvious mistake and Parlophone was ridiculous enough to defend it in first place. They should have issued the replacements without any fuss, like Rhino did during the New Order remastering campaign, years ago. At this point, brickwalled mastering is a standard practice, this message board has been one enormous complaint about it since day one. Do they ever cared? It doesn't seem to me. Protesting for that isn't going to fix anything. Also, not many people own real listening gear now, you can't really hear any sound problem over a mono Sonos speaker, or a 200$ stereo bluetooth set. There is no real demographics for sound quality, as of now. I don't want to sound cynical, just looking at reality.
I think they mean to try and only use the main master source, going by a prior statement when they said they didnt want to drop in a fix from another source.
Interesting comments here. http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/n...p-to-bowie-box-heroes-issue-and-takes-action/
I could very well be wrong, but I feel it was only through people from here going onto amazon and writing poor reviews that got the ball rolling on this in the first place, if we'd just kept our thoughts here and not gone onto amazon & the sde site then the record label would probably have done nothing. Complaining about brickwalling etc... does exist outside this site, but not to anywhere near the extent it does here, and so you can't take the comments here as being read and understood by the record labels - it might be, and they have ignored you, but there is also a chance that it's gone totally unnoticed by them & only sites like amazon, with their reviews will make them sit up and take notice. It's all speculation, of course.
Probably! Or as a picture disc single for RSD 2022 - 'Heroes - energy boost version' - limited to 10,000 copies.
I just listened to the 24/192 files and, while they went a little nuts with the compression, I'm not seeing any clipped waveforms (although I've only examined a handful of tracks, mostly from Low and Heroes). On the CDs there's clipping galore, so this surprised me. I also found that I liked the remastering on Low (not so much on Heroes). As many other people found, the volume drop on Heroes (and it is a drop in volume no matter what lingo Parlophone chooses to use to describe it) sounds like someone walked to the stereo and turned down the volume knob twice. It drops a little bit and then drops further.
I take the original ""Heroes"" on ANCIANT without replacing it, it will become a rarity. In any case they wanted to give a drink because they did not replace the whole box that unleashed a total disapprovation.
