Bob Dylan: "Trouble No More 1979 - 1981" - The Bootleg Series Vol. 13

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  1. Walter Sobchak

    Walter Sobchak Forum Resident

    Some of those sermons would have been hard for today's listeners to brush off that easily, and it would have become a negative discussion in the music press.
     
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  2. serendipitydawg

    serendipitydawg Dag nabbit!

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    The 15 track sampler is on Tidal as well (no suprise)
     
  3. aoxomoxoa

    aoxomoxoa I'm an ear sitting in the sky

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    Im actually glad there are no sermons. I doubt I would have sat through any of them more than once
     
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  4. kuddukan

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  5. voles

    voles Forum Lurker

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    I can imagine they were an even harder listen at the time. At least they have an hysterical value now...

    Listening to San Diego - it's excellent in every way; so I can't really understand why it wasn't included with the main set.
     
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  6. Bink

    Bink Forum Resident

    As in dates? It is all from 28th apart from In The Garden.

    Recording source? It is explained that it comes from a cassette soundboard recording.
     
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  7. Champagne Boot

    Champagne Boot Ain't nothin' gonna break my stride

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    Yet they're still an important part of the story. Personally, I'm disappointed--if indeed there were edits to take them out of the full shows included here--that the Dylan camp advertised full shows as part of the set, but have actually taken out large chunks of the performed material. And, yes, the sermons were performed material.
     
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  8. arthurprecarious

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    Some of his words wouldn't go down too well 37 years on....
     
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  9. I happy the sermons are edited out but I wouldn’t haves minded if they were included for one show like San Diego
     
  10. kuddukan

    kuddukan Forum Resident

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    No surprise here, this was well discussed ahead of time.
     
  11. Brian Doherty

    Brian Doherty Forum Resident

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    Yeah. I mean, they got my money so they don't care, but I regret spending the big bucks I did if all sermons are cut from everything. (I reserve the right to show mercy when I actually GET the package and see if the music forgives the sin of cutting all sermons.)

    They could have avoided the "controversy" over Dylan apocalyptic Christianity by just NOT creating a 200 box set of this music/era. It's not like anyone but obsessed fans were clamoring for such a thing in ANY form.
     
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  12. Champagne Boot

    Champagne Boot Ain't nothin' gonna break my stride

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    You're not wrong, but if they're trying to tell the story of the gospel years, it should actually be told--warts and all. Bob's weird meanderings into a very specific type of Christianity can only be fully explained when you consider his stabs at preaching the word.
     
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  13. Walter Sobchak

    Walter Sobchak Forum Resident

    If I understand it correctly there was a particularly homophobic sermon that definitely would have been an issue
     
  14. voles

    voles Forum Lurker

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    Can't find any details of the 'DVD Extra' tracks. Has anyone got any info or do I have to stop ripping and load the DVD to find out?
     
  15. voles

    voles Forum Lurker

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    Which date was that? I think they are all bootlegged...
     
  16. Champagne Boot

    Champagne Boot Ain't nothin' gonna break my stride

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    No one is saying include them all, but to not include any is a questionable decision, no matter how you cut it.
     
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  17. The Killer

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    Don't use a bottle opener you fool, you'll damage the packaging!
     
  18. Bink

    Bink Forum Resident

    Indeed. It might have been an issue with his own family.
     
  19. windfall

    windfall Senior Member

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    Mine arrived an hour ago and I started with the SD bonus discs. The intensity of "When He Returns" is just incredible. I think I am going to be spending a lot of time with this box.
     
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  20. Zagonga

    Zagonga Forum Resident

    On the free Amazon box set download. Disc 2, Track 3, Gotta serve somebody states it comes from Earls Court 27-6-81 which is a typos of sorts. It is in fact Bag Segeberg 15-7-81
     
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  21. ~dave~~wave~

    ~dave~~wave~ Forum Resident

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    Deluxe set with SD bonus discs now show sold out on Sony site.
    Them that's got, enjoy them!
     
  22. windfall

    windfall Senior Member

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    Hate to grumble - this box is going to be a treasure chest - but, damn, considering how many incredible photos there are in the book and packaging generally, they really could have done better with the cover shot...
     
  23. voles

    voles Forum Lurker

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    They are on the DVD. In fact there is a special feature of 'Sermons Only'.

    Incidentally the DVD Extras appear to be different versions of the performances in the film.
     
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  24. Bemagnus

    Bemagnus Music is fun

    I am personally happy the sermons are not included. Historical value or not it would have lessened the considerable musical pleasures these discs contain. A good thing about the film is that one can choose to see the movie without the newly shot sermons or without. You can t do that kind of thing on a cd so I guess it would have become a less pleasant listening experience. For those interesting in earring Dylan preach fire and brimstone gospel they are not hard to find anyway.
    The music is the thing for me.
     
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  25. Bemagnus

    Bemagnus Music is fun

    No the sermons on the DVD are not Dylan they are newly filmed, highly enjoyable sermons from an actor
    That is kind of funny I think
    Very Dylanesque
     

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