The Grateful Thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by JRM, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. libertycaps

    libertycaps Forum Resident

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    :targettiphat: I said decent. BRING ON THE HOLY OF HOLIES !!! :targettiphat:
     
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  2. runonguinness

    runonguinness Forum Resident

    You mean MAGOO'S!?! With extra pepperoni!
     
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  3. couchdave

    couchdave Founding member of Mystik Spiral

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    Yep. If you turn up your volume between about 0:15 and 0:45 on the DP29 Estimated track you can hear Jerry & Bob reviewing the planned song sequence for the entire set just off-mike, before Bob comes back to the mike and asks the audience to wish them good luck in remembering it all.
     
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  4. US Blues

    US Blues Undermining Consensus Reality

    Extra mushrooms. :pineapple:
     
  5. runonguinness

    runonguinness Forum Resident

    And some of that peyote dip
     
  6. US Blues

    US Blues Undermining Consensus Reality

    Well, that settles it. 11 November 1973 is the Dark Star. :love:
     
  7. SBegonias17

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    Definitely a Top 5 in my book and the best post-Fall ‘72 Dark Star.
     
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  8. warewolf95

    warewolf95 Forum Resident

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    Why? :)
     
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  9. warewolf95

    warewolf95 Forum Resident

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    8 12 81 Salt Lake City

    A nearly 2 hour second set?! WOAH!
     
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  10. US Blues

    US Blues Undermining Consensus Reality

    An excellent question! Dark Star is largely an improvised piece of music, there is barely enough song structure on which to hang one's hat. In this version the entire song sounds like a composition, as if it had been notated beforehand and the boys were playing from sheet music. But it's not written out, the Music was Playing the Band, from the first note through the last, utterly brilliant composition in the moment of performance, each musician serving the music without separation of intent, clarity, and purpose.

    Many Dark Stars are beloved for a section, a riff, a magnificent transition jam. This version has all of that, and there is not a note out of place- every note, drums beat, cymbal crash, and unplayed note serves to transport us to the realm where Dark Star lights the entire Universe, the heart of the Fractal.
     
  11. warewolf95

    warewolf95 Forum Resident

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    Fair enough! :D
     
  12. wavethatflag

    wavethatflag God is love, but get it in writing.

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    Dave's 24 8/25/1972. Rain and Snow-oh oh oh oh oh oh.

    Maybe I'll listen to November 11, 1973 next.
     
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  13. Archtop

    Archtop Soft Dead Crimson Cow

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    I think as an improvised piece of music that sounds composed and yet retains every semblance of originality that an improvised piece of music possibly could, 4/8/72 annihilates 11/11/73. And the 4/24/72 DS--> Uncle--> DS annihilates everything.
     
  14. wavethatflag

    wavethatflag God is love, but get it in writing.

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    I didn't know if I was reading Archtop's opinion here, or bad guy dialogue from the next Star Wars movie.

    "Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational 4/8/72 Dark Star."

    Good sound on this latest Dave's. Well-recorded.
     
  15. Mad Dog

    Mad Dog Forum Resident

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    If you listen closely after Bobby ask the crowd to wish them good luck, you can hear Micky in a wise ass voice yell "good luck" and weir starts laughing. You can also hear them lay out the whole sequence to each other before they start. Great second set.
     
  16. Archtop

    Archtop Soft Dead Crimson Cow

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    You are a loony!
     
  17. wavethatflag

    wavethatflag God is love, but get it in writing.

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    Seriously. I'm using headphones, and this is great.
     
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  18. Archtop

    Archtop Soft Dead Crimson Cow

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    Then you're somehow stuck in a futuristic time warp. Big Brown never sounded like that. Why do you dredge this stuff up?
     
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  19. wavethatflag

    wavethatflag God is love, but get it in writing.

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    Dredge what stuff? All I said is I think the new Dave's sounds good. I was going to say for tapes of that era but I think it's even better than that.

    You don't like the sound of Phil's bass?

    I now vaguely recall a Big Brown discussion in the Dave's 24 thread, which I couldn't find, unless i'm thinking of the 2017 subscription thread. But I didn't read it. I remember someone posted a pic of the bass.
     
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  20. Archtop

    Archtop Soft Dead Crimson Cow

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    It's not the sound of Phil's bass. That's the problem. And I know you read this thread and you're just pushing buttons. So I'm out.
     
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  21. wavethatflag

    wavethatflag God is love, but get it in writing.

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    So did he switch to a different instrument for a while? I just edited my post above to add that I recall a Big Brown discussion somewhere, but I wasn't in on that.
     
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  22. warewolf95

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    :( C'mon you two, kiss and make up. Don't kill the vibes, yo! :D
     
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  23. warewolf95

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    The gist of it is somewhere in post production the bass sound got altered and most people don't like it. :)
     
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  24. wavethatflag

    wavethatflag God is love, but get it in writing.

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    No, I'm not pushing any buttons at all. Like I said, after you mentioned Big Brown, I recalled a discussion about it in another thread, but I had zero idea that you didn't like the sound of Dave's 24 or that you had an issue with Phil's bass when I said I liked the sound of Dave's 24.
     
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  25. wavethatflag

    wavethatflag God is love, but get it in writing.

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    Thank you, Mr. 95. I had no idea. They altered Phil's bass in post-production? Why? Is there an article on this somewhere, or did the Forum come up with that?
     
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