Jimi Hendrix Experience Electric Ladyland (50th Anniversary Edition) 4-CD Box EH/Sony Nov. 9

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by kanakaris, Mar 21, 2018.

  1. Gordon Johnson

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    At least we can now move on!

    I was asking why folk were posting about these being fold down [or not] as I never noticed a single post which read as, "I sat and gave them a listen and concluded as …………..". All we got was a black statement and as usual, it turned out to be simply someone's comment from some long forgotten past being recycled, correct or otherwise in this instance!

    As I have and had listened to these records [again, I own them so can check] I already knew the outcome, I don't rely on 'drop's to attempt to evaluate this sort of material.

    Anyway, nice of EH to have come up to speed for us.

    I also have a good number of the other mono mixes / fold downs from the common to the genuinely rare but making a statement as to there status is worthless here. It may just upset some folks opinion and we know were that leads us!

    As for the definition of rare.
    In our case it means, in its literal sense, low numbers. We can caveat that with "though available in high numbers, this is an item rare to the market".

    Burning Of The Midnight Lamp fits neither of the above. The original Track records 45 was issued in the thousands and though the CD box set was available in lower numbers it still saw a three figure issue, again thousands. That an item is no longer produced does not equate to it being rare. Easily available to find and cheap to buy. So rare is simply being used here for marketing reasons.

    And yes, the original statement and corrected one are both from a third party be they lifted as part of an official statement or otherwise, so my "bet" would be more than a safe one!

    Hope this post helps, I have tried ever so hard to avoid being subjective, I deliberately avoided words like Better, Worse, Good and Poor. Being way too subjective to present anything worthwhile reading!

    For instance, there is no "good" sounding mono AYE, just as an example of course. That different pressings sound different and have different levels of appeal on play back does not make a "poor" sound, sound "good".

    Right, plenty to crack on with here before I get to sit and listen to a rare record [low in number originally, low in number as in surviving 49 years and extremely infrequent to the market so it ticks all the "rare" boxes :)

    But will we move on?
     
  2. sleeptowin

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    SO, if i have the original track single, then i don't need this new release? burning of the midnight lamp was easily available when i started collecting. i have multiples of it.
     
  3. Gordon Johnson

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    There are plenty of copies around even now, many in very good condition too.

    But yes, nothing new here it seems. Though the collector side in you just might come out :)

    Or, as in my case the Orange Crush will grab you :)
     
  4. Gordon Johnson

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    They may well have read it here, or maybe on another forum [without having to wade through a lot of other stuff!]. Maybe someone contacted them direct?
    Or, maybe they decided to change it as they are looking at their over all marketing side of things anyway? After all, both Sony and EH have come in for a lot of criticism recently.

    I do know they do take note of genuine comments that are directed at their processes, some times it takes a while to change things.

    Let's just hope this is not a one off and we can take it as a positive indication of things to come.

    After all, good marketing blurb sells units.

    To infinity and beyond! Maybe just the brick and mortar outlets :)

    I guess we get used to it, a little noise on vinyl is not an issue for me likewise tape hiss on cassette is not an issue.
    Of course, minimising any noise helps so a clean record, reasonable set up goes a long way. I'd rather have analogue noise, including a bit of vinyl crackle in quiet parts than what I find is a slightly artificial sound from elsewhere.
     
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  5. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

    Essentially I am getting this for the 5.1, I have wanted a 5.1 of this album since the format was born. I have a good copy of the album and with the Hendrix estate having released so many posthumous albums, it isn't hard to believe that there wouldn't be much undiscovered treasure in the vaults. So with that in mind I don't really understand some of the dissension i read regarding disappointment
     
  6. Gordon Johnson

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    Given the level of outs added to this set it is disappointing as there is plenty of material that could have been included, a lot that would have been new to even the hardened collector.

    Maybe we just have to wait a few more years?

    Nice to be so back on topic :)
     
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  7. John Harchar

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    The disappointment is there are things we know exist thanks to *ahem* other sources and it would have been nice if they were included. Just going back to the Live & Unreleased radio show/Lifelines box set, there were a number of outtakes there that should/could have been included (the alternate 1983 may been on the Outtakes disc hopefully). The streaming version will supposedly include tracks from posthumous albums recorded from this era. So if you stream, you may be getting Tax Free, Three Little Bears, South Saturn Delta etc. For each of these there are different versions that could have been used instead of repeating what's already been released (I guess a "thank you for not double dipping too much" is in order). I'm probably going to be happy with what I get, then go about adding things from my other sources to make a fuller picture.
     
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  8. Chris M

    Chris M Senior Member In Memoriam

    IIRC the EH release was 5% fast...doesn't matter as lower generation tape was discovered (and circulated) a few years after the Dagger release. I'm sure EH used the best tape thought to exist. No problem there, the speed is glaring but mistakes happen.

    What is unforgivable is the $80 Ottawa 'fan pack' reissue a decade later than a) had the same speed error and b) did not use the far better, widely available source.
     
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  9. Experiencereunited

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    Well you have to give them credit for clearing this up (after a huge backlash on this site). They even changed the language on the RSD site.
     
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  10. jhm

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    Totally agree, mistakes happen, but how hard would it have been to fix the speed problem and reissue it? They did it for Fehmarn later on.
     
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  11. duneman

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    Auto-buy for me - esp. for the hi-res stereo and 5.1. As noted before this album is a prime candidate for surround. Yee-hah, am very much looking forward to this. Plan on hosting a 5.1 listening party at my house!
     
  12. dprokopy

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    Is everyone going to sit on each other's laps in the "sweet spot"? :D
     
  13. SoundDoctor

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    I think that while complaints about lack of interesting content are warranted, I still think that getting the CD set for $50-ish is a deal that can't be passed up. Now the vinyl may be a little too expensive, but I will likely by the CD anyway (even as a vinyl person).
     
  14. Opeth

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    Exactly where I am at, plus all 3 albums with hi res stereo finally !!!!!!!!!!
     
  15. bluesbro

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    He said it was a party.
     
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  16. duneman

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    That's a good one. There's an off color joke in there somewhere!
     
  17. Experiencereunited

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    Back to the 45. I am glad they are releasing the mono 45 too to go along with the Boxset. Yes it would have been better to include it all together. However, in my mind these mixes are another piece of the ELL 50th that shouldn't be overlooked. Also this release looks to have the cool artwork from the original German? 45 (and in Orange vinyl no less) and is a nice touch. Of course if you have the orignal 45s or The Classic Singles Boxset Vol 2 already this may be easy to overlook.

    There was also a Watchower mono folddown in addition to the 3 they are releasing though that doesn't seem to be making an appearance.
     
  18. Purple Jim

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    Does anyone know if the BOTML in the old 6 Singles Pack was the original true mono mix?
     
  19. Larry Geller

    Larry Geller Surround sound lunatic

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    I just ordered the 2010 Legacy UK version of Smash Hits,, which has both sides of the BOTML 45 on it, hopefully in best ever sound. Fingers crossed.
     
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  20. Leonthepro

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    Im waiting till someone drops a comparison of the 2010 legacy and the new BG cut. Dont wanna have to buy another one.
     
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  21. PADYBU

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    Which song are y'all looking forward to hearing the 5.1 of the most? For me it's gotta be 1983 :love::goodie:
     
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  22. Pouchkine

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    1983!
     
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  23. Dr. Luther's Assistant

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    1983 and Long Hot Summer for me.
     
  24. shakti

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    Good question, but almost impossible to choose. This album is made for surround, it has been my most wanted surround candidate for a long time and I am super excited it's finally happening. Let's hope we're not disappointed...

    If forced to choose I would nominate...
    Have You Ever Been...
    Voodoo Chile
    Gypsy Eyes
    1983
    House Burning Down
     
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  25. steviebee

    steviebee Always playing Ese and The Vooduu People

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    I figured the AAA Bernie cut would be worth it - I got my 2010 cheap, used but in overall excellent+ nick, but it'll be nice to have a brand spanky-new copy. It will be interesting to hear them side by side.

    And against my ladies-cover early 70s pressing :)
     
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