50th Anniversary all things Beatles White Album

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by tinnox, Feb 8, 2018.

  1. Gill-man

    Gill-man Forum Resident

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    You need to let this fallacy that these are errors go. Just because you don’t like certain differences, doesn’t make them an error.
     
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  2. Bern

    Bern JC4Me

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    If you want it to sound exactly the same..go to the original mix. If you want centered bass and vocals and drums...go to the mono mix.
     
  3. stevenson66g

    stevenson66g Hand me my Revolver

    Maybe the fallacy is that these aren't errors and you need to let it go.
    I think the comments being made are worthy of discussion. Certain things sound like errors - they're certainly not on the originals and detract from the performance - eg the piano after THINK in BOJAY, missing piano in ADITL.
    I see no problem with fixing obvious errors in the originals - the dropout in Day Tripper for example.
     
  4. stevenson66g

    stevenson66g Hand me my Revolver

    Actually it's not my favourite George song from the Pepper sessions.
     
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  5. stevenson66g

    stevenson66g Hand me my Revolver

    Actually I would say the point for me is to create a great new stereo mix that features all (and only) the components that made the original. I don't want a carbon copy - obviously - so we don't get some of the poor stereo placements of the originals, but something that enhances the sound keeping the original feel and the original parts.
     
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  6. Gill-man

    Gill-man Forum Resident

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    What you’re describing isn’t a remix. It’s a glorified remaster.
     
  7. brainwashed

    brainwashed Forum Hall Of Fame

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    However, there's no reason the core albums can't be released in slightly smaller sets. I'm guessing 2 or 3 CDs at best. Remixed stereo. Outtakes, session takes and demos where they exist. Associated singles too. Of course this would differ a bit with THIS release, but there doesn't seem to be any hard and fast rules. If it sells, there will be more releases in the future. This WILL sell. Ron
     
  8. ronbow

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  9. Flippikat

    Flippikat Forum Resident

    When they finally go back to Revolver & earlier, I'm not sure whether there's the amount of genuinely interesting outtakes for 5 or 6 Disc sets.

    2 disc sure, 3 disc maybe, but not the size of the ones we're getting now.
     
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  10. Colocally

    Colocally One Of The New Wave Boys

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    I would do a box a year for the pre-Pepper stuff. (Obvs add 1962 to the 1963 box).
     
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  11. Flippikat

    Flippikat Forum Resident

    That could work pretty well. Solves the "lack of worthy outtakes" problems of an album-by-album strategy for boxsets.
     
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  12. Lance Hall

    Lance Hall Senior Member

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    I've always thought the value of remixing old material should be to fix deficiencies like poor stereo spread or wonky/crude panning.

    I've always thought a remix should just sound like a better VINTAGE mix.

    If you play both mixes from another room they should sound the same. Maybe you could improve the balances a little bit or improve the presence on a vocal.

    A new mix from a better generation source is almost always going to have better fidelity anyways as long as the remixer doesn't screw it up and knows what went into making the original mix sound the way it does.
     
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  13. soniclovenoize

    soniclovenoize Forum Resident

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    They could simply bundle two albums together for whatever year they are covering:

    2023 - Please Please Me + With The Beatles + bonus disc
    2024 - A Hard Day's Night + Beatles For Sale + bonus disc
    2025 - Help! + Rubber Soul + bonus disc

    And then Revolver in 2026 and then the cycle is complete.
     
  14. crossroads69

    crossroads69 Senior Member

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    I hope we don’t have to wait until 2026 for Revolver! How about 55th anniversary version in 2021? :)

    The early albums can be pushed back to allow demixing technology to keep evolving and getting better.,
     
  15. A well respected man

    A well respected man Some Mother's Son

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    There's no need to tie these releases to anniversaries, and I don't think they will wait till 2023 just for that.
     
  16. Dee Zee

    Dee Zee Once Upon a Dream

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  17. brainwashed

    brainwashed Forum Hall Of Fame

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    True, regarding studio material, but there's a lot of video from the earlier era too. Certainly that can be used to augment sets, but I'd rather keep them streamlined when possible. Ron
     
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  18. Carl80

    Carl80 Forum Resident

    I don’t think they will always wait for an anniversary for some of the other albums but it’s weather the material is there for a 6-7 disc set.
     
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  19. BuCo

    BuCo A guy who can't have enough Super Deluxe box sets

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    I believe that, after a copy of the collage was made in 1968, the collage was dismantled and the separate elements were given back to the Beatles.
     
  20. taramark

    taramark Forum Resident

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    The early albums can be pushed back to allow demixing technology to keep evolving and getting better.,[/QUOTE]

    I'd rather they didn't demix anything.
     
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  21. Colocally

    Colocally One Of The New Wave Boys

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    But was re assembled a few years before Hamilton's death. Earlier in the thread there was a comparison of the original to the reconstruction.
     
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  22. BuCo

    BuCo A guy who can't have enough Super Deluxe box sets

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    I made the original post about it:
     
  23. A well respected man

    A well respected man Some Mother's Son

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    The first two albums were recorded in two tracks, so not much remixing can be done without demixing. Not to mention the few tracks that are only preserved in mono.
     
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  24. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Rolling Stone review yet?
     
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  25. Colocally

    Colocally One Of The New Wave Boys

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    How quick I forget. :D
     
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