Listenin' to Classical Music and Conversation

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by bluemooze, Feb 22, 2017.

  1. Bachtoven

    Bachtoven Forum Resident

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    US
    The Op.2 Sonatas--wonderful!

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  2. bluemooze

    bluemooze Senior Member Thread Starter

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    Frenchtown NJ USA
    I can say this. I strongly prefer the crispy clear dry recorded sound of the Hungarton Beethoven sonata discs. It draws me into the playing. Just sayin'. :)
     
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  3. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

    Location:
    CT, USA
    Need to give my box a second listen one of these days ...:edthumbs:
     
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  4. crispi

    crispi Vinyl Archaeologist

    Location:
    Berlin
    Elisabeth :yikes::doh:
     
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  5. layman

    layman Forum Resident

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    New York, NY
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    I also think that these recordings revolutionized Schumann playing/listening. Prior to these recordings, Schumann's original orchestrations were accused of being overly thick or wrong...conductors such as Gustav Mahler and Georg Szell even re-orchestrated and "corrected" parts of the Symphonies. Gardiner's recordings were like a breath of fresh air and proved that the original orchestrations don't really need correcting but the style of playing needs to be closer to that of the early romantic period, the period in which the Symphonies were composed. HIP has truly revealed Schumann and I think this style of playing also does wonders for other early romantic composers such as Berlioz, Weber, Mendelssohn, Beethoven, Schubert, Clementi, Czerny....
     
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  6. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    CT, USA
    Sounds like an interesting, early recording ...

    @crispi, Are you a fan of EB?
     
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  7. ibanez_ax

    ibanez_ax Forum Resident

    CD from the first Living Stereo box.

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  8. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

    Location:
    CT, USA
    I had my first and only listen to the SACD verion in the early 2000's ...

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    BTW, my Szell big box arrived yesterday. The outer box is in very good shape so the Szell box should be too ...
     
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  9. ibanez_ax

    ibanez_ax Forum Resident

    Did you not like this Mahler 4 or have you just not gotten around to listening again since you have a much bigger collection than me?

    According to this live map thing that UPS now provides, the truck with the Szell box is about a mile from my house. It's been in my area making deliveries this afternoon.
    :waiting:
     
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  10. Jazzicalit

    Jazzicalit In the Tradition

    Location:
    Italy
    LUDWIG VAN BEETHOVEN
    Egmont op. 84- Ah! Perfido op. 65 - Ouverture Leonore III op. 72a - Fantasie op. 80
    Cheryl Studer/Bruno Ganz/Yevgeny Kissin/Rias Chorus
    Berliner Philharmoniker/Claudio Abbado

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    An excellent cd ;)
     
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  11. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    Your post won't please fervent opponents of HIP :)
     
  12. bluemooze

    bluemooze Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Frenchtown NJ USA
    First listen to CD 5 from "George Szell - The Complete Columbia Album Collection" on Sony.

    With the Cleveland Orchestra:
    Dvorak - Symphony No. 5 "From the New World"

    (was also No. 8 for a while :))

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  13. bluemooze

    bluemooze Senior Member Thread Starter

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    Frenchtown NJ USA
    I started listening to classical music in the Eighties, with a lot of Academy Of Ancient Music and English Concert, so I was exposed to HIP from the beginning, so to speak. Yesterday when I listened to the Richter/Kagan Mozart sonata, the violin was very noticeable to me. Thick and heavy with lots of vibrato. :)
     
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  14. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    CT, USA
    I don't recall if I liked that Mahler 4 or not. Yeah, for me to get a second listen real fast, the recording has to make a real good impression ...
     
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  15. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    I am a borderline fervent opponents of HIP for any works post-Haydn ...
     
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  16. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    To my ears Mozart's sonatas benefit from lighter violin playing with much less vibrato, though the tone can sometimes get a bit too thin, as happened quite a lot in the early years of HIP. Good thing that HIP playing has evolved in later years. One of the earlier HIP ensembles that was always excellent was Trevor Pinnock's English Concert.
     
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  17. Wugged

    Wugged Forum Resident

    Location:
    Warsaw, Poland
    Yep, Lisa :love: :love:
     
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  18. Wugged

    Wugged Forum Resident

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    Warsaw, Poland
    :wave: :wave:
     
  19. bluemooze

    bluemooze Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Frenchtown NJ USA
    Listening to CD 49 from the "L'Oiseau Lyre - Medieval & Renaissance" box.

    The Sylvan And Oceanic Delights Of Posilipo performed by the New London Consort directed by Philip Pickett.

    Featuring: Patrizia Kwella (soprano), Catherine Bott (soprano), Andrew King (tenor), John Mark Ainsley (tenor)


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  20. Jazzicalit

    Jazzicalit In the Tradition

    Location:
    Italy
    PETER MAXWELL DAVIES
    Symphony no. 10
    LSO/Antonio Pappano



    Dedicated to Francesco Borromini and his wonderful architecture.
     
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  21. Bachtoven

    Bachtoven Forum Resident

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    Beautifully played and recorded (24/96 FLAC).

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  22. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

    Location:
    CT, USA
    That is one big reason why the English Concert just killed the Goebel's MAK IMHO, i.e. the English Concert has always sounded a bit more lively than the MAK ...
     
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  23. hvbias

    hvbias Midrange magic

    Location:
    Northeast
    I like the sound on those sonatas as well as the tone of the Bosendorfer.

    Played today, Handel's Judas Maccabaeus

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    As well as Beethoven Op. 10/3, Liszt Sonata in B Minor and Haydn Piano Sonatas in A, G, E minor and C. Currently listening to Schumann's Symphonic Etudes Op. 13. All played by Ernst Levy on Vol 3 and 4 Marston releases. I have to fully agree with Marston's blurb on the back. For the pieces I am very familiar with Levy's playing is uncharacteristically unique and wonderful. 10/3 is a bit too anachronistic to be a reference performance but he is much more "normal" in the later Beethoven sonatas and continues to play them in his usual intensity.

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  24. hvbias

    hvbias Midrange magic

    Location:
    Northeast
    Speaking Mahler in the previous page, one from the Szell box where the performances are much better than the artwork :p

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  25. cartologist

    cartologist Just the son of an Iowa girl

    Location:
    MA, USA
    I have it CD from Decca Sound box. Like all CD versions of this title, it is complete. I guess Strauss on New Year’s Day in Vienna is like the Rose Bowl parade here. ;)
     

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