Electric Light Orchestra - albums on CD

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Andreas, Jan 14, 2007.

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  1. mark f.

    mark f. Senior Member

    It's the Gastwirt mastering. Same EAC values on my copy of the US Jet CD. That's not bad news IMO. The Gastwirt sounds okay to me.
     
  2. Downsampled

    Downsampled Senior Member

    You mean all I have appreciate now is the CD is more importy-looking than the U.S. release? :D

    Thanks for the info. BTW, once I got to looking at it last night I realized that it is made in Austria, not Japan.

    Anyone have different pre-remastered pressings? It looks to me like poor Eldorado is always left out of threads like this because the DCC is so great. :)
     
  3. Sander

    Sander Senior Member

    I also own a copy of the CDEPC 32397 (made in Austria). Not a bad sounding disc at all, but then again I have never heard Steve's version of Eldorado. Oh well, until I find the DCC ignorance is bliss... :winkgrin:
     
  4. Sander

    Sander Senior Member

    Reading this thread got me to play 'Time' again. This album still grows on me every time!

    Anyway, I always assumed I had an Austrian pre-remaster (having bought it second-hand in Europe). Boy was I wrong, the disc is made in Australia. Also, I noticed that my disc doesn't have a gap between 21st Century Man and Hold On Tight which makes me think that the mastering is different from the US Gastwirt version.

    The sonics are very nice - uncompressed and dynamic. Even reminds me a little of my early Austrian JET-500 CD of Discovery (with the 35DP-24 mastering). However, I don't have any other versions of Time to compare it with.

    The disc is on Jet Records, cat no. 462834 2, "Manufactured In Australia by Sony Music Australia Limited", matrix: "462834.2 (DB) #04 Sony Music Australia". Total playing time: 44.14

    I would like to find out if the mastering is indeed different from the US Gastwirt. Can anyone shed some light on this or post peak levels of a pressing with the Gastwirt mastering? I will try to post peak levels of my Australian pressing later today, but right now there is a hungry kid waiting for me... :)

    Many thanks!
     
  5. Sander

    Sander Senior Member

    Here are the peak levels for Time, Jet 462834 2 (made in Australia):

    89.5 % - 100.0 % - 82.7 % - 89.4 % - 87.3 % - 83.3 % - 85.6 % - 100.0 % - 94.1 % - 89.1 % - 77.9 % - 100.0 % - 77.5 %
     
  6. Thomas Pugwash

    Thomas Pugwash Forum Resident

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    Dublin, Ireland.
    I've just stuck on my Gastwirt U.S copy to check if there was a gap AND THERE IS!! I NEVER noticed. Why are things like this allowed to happen.....?? :realmad:
     
  7. That's not half as bad as the mastering on the original Jet "Secret Messages" CD. How that actually got past any sort of QC is beyond me. The CD starts off with screwed up balance/noise/dropouts.

    -Bill
     
  8. Sander

    Sander Senior Member

    Bump

    Can anybody help with the EAC levels for the Joe Gastwirt mastered disc of 'Time'? I would like to find out if my Australian 'Jet 462834 2' disc has a different mastering. Thanks.
     
  9. bru87tr

    bru87tr 80’s rule

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    if anyone is curious, the early US DADC pressing of "Discovery" has the 35DP mastering.
     
  10. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    Apologies for the long wait in reply.

    :agree: Yes, that's the one I'm talking about. :)
     
  11. flashgordon

    flashgordon New Member

    Thank you, Dave :wave:
    In fact, i bought the one four months ago. Great sound! I wish all ELO's were sound like this :thumbsup:
     
  12. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    :wave: You're most welcome and I agree with you 100%. I'll never understand why they stopped producing these fabulous sounding masterings in favour of what they became. :shake:

    Hello music industry, what part of if it isn't broken don't try to fix it are you not comprehending?
     
  13. Thomas Pugwash

    Thomas Pugwash Forum Resident

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    Dublin, Ireland.
  14. Mike Dow

    Mike Dow I kind of like the music

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    Bangor, Maine
  15. Jamie Tate

    Jamie Tate New Member

    Location:
    Nashville
    I got my Blu-Spec CD of Out Of The Blue. It's digitally identical to the Palmaccio remaster.

    I compared the Blu-Spec to the remastered CD and heard no difference so I tried it using a crappy CD player from 1986. Then I started to hear the Blu-Spec CD sounded slightly darker. I was able to consistently pick it out whenever my assistant switched the discs. He'd ask me which disc was playing and I could actually hear the difference (but only on my crappy CD player. The good players made them both sound the same).

    I'm taking both discs over to Joe Palmaccio's studio today. I doubt we'll hear any differences there (his gear doesn't suck).
     
  16. Paul K

    Paul K Senior Member

    Location:
    Toronto, Canada
    Please let us know what happens over there Jamie!
     
  17. yasujiro

    yasujiro Senior Member

    Location:
    tokyo
    I'm curious, too.
     
  18. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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  19. Jamie Tate

    Jamie Tate New Member

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    Nashville
    Looks like it's on the Camden label. Seems to be a legit release. Could be wrong though.
     
  20. Thomas Pugwash

    Thomas Pugwash Forum Resident

    Location:
    Dublin, Ireland.
    Jeez lads I KNOW it's an official release but HOW MANY of these crappy single sleeved 'official' release E.L.O compilations can all of us take?? And more importantly how much damage does the back catalogue and history of a truly great band take when you see piles of these s-h-i-t-e c.d's in garage's/truck-stops etc., when their music should be treated with the same respect as some lesser bands are.

    People blab on about the 'Rock and roll hall of fame' and lack of respect for Jeff and the boys but when you see the 'Camden' f***ing label releasing yet ANOTHER compilation.....well.

    If 'E.L.O's' house is not in order in 2009 well then it's going to be a future of 'guilty pleasure' references to a band that deserve so much more than that.

    FAN RANT OVER

    T.
     
  21. Matty

    Matty Forum Resident

    Location:
    Pennsylvania

    For what it's worth, based on the track list, it appears that this isn't actually a new compilation, but rather a retitled reissue of ELO's Greatest Hits (the 1979 comp).

    I'm guessing that this information doesn't make you feel a whole lot better, though, does it?
     
  22. Pug

    Pug The Prodigal Snob Returns!

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  23. Thomas Pugwash

    Thomas Pugwash Forum Resident

    Location:
    Dublin, Ireland.
    Well Matty that would be cool, as a re-mastered edition of the classic '79 comp is well overdue, but of course it would need to have the original artwork which was so seminal with that release (The medal - God how I wanted one of those. Jeff's hand written letter - Something he's never done quite so perfectly before or since. And the inner sleeve lyrics and picture - stared at and read obsessively).

    But sadly no.

    Spaceship logo, crappy artwork.....useless.

    T.
     
  24. Jamie Tate

    Jamie Tate New Member

    Location:
    Nashville
    I just got back from Joe Palmaccio's studio. We compared the Blu-Spec and remastered CDs of Out Of The Blue. I don't want to speak for Joe since he's not here but we both heard a difference. It was quite subtle but there was still an audible difference. I don't usually fall for audio foolery crap like this but hand to heart the Blu-Spec had a bit more depth to the sound and it was slightly darker. Joe switched between the two and I was able to hear which was which.

    Will I buy more Blu-Spec CDs? Probably not. Even though the entire Billy Joel catalog is being released I doubt this subtle difference is enough for me to buy these expensive and difficult to obtain discs when the originals sound just dandy.
     
  25. pig whisperer

    pig whisperer CD Member

    Location:
    Tokyo, Japan
    I think these cost the same as any other new CDs in Japan. The new U2 CD costs about $25 and a Blu-Spec should be about the same price - I see these all the time and will pay a bit more attention to the list price next time. The average listener in Japan doesn't have a high end system - let alone what Joe Palmaccio has in his studio - and, I suspect, the differences will be more profound. Not bad for a CD which costs the same as other new releases. The AF gold discs cost from $25 to $30 in the stores I've been to.

    BTW, did Joe say which pressing sounds closest to his mastering?
     
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