My Copy of "All Things Must Pass" Melted!

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by MichaelXX2, Jul 29, 2014.

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  1. Ghostworld

    Ghostworld Senior Member

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    US
    Beware of sunlight.
     
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  2. oregonalex

    oregonalex Forum Resident

    This is on our porch whenever a record shipment is expected in the summer. Made from a roll of aluminum coated bubble insulation from Home Depot.

    [​IMG]
     
  3. ElizabethH

    ElizabethH Forum Resident

    Location:
    SE Wisconsin,USA
    Well even if it was not left in sunlight at your home.. the package may have been sitting in the uverheated truck for hours.. I just never buy LPs via mail in the late Summer. No point in taking the high risk of them being damaged in transit by the extreme heat.
    Even if sent via air, the container could sit on the tarmac blistering in the sun. Just not worth the risk IMO.
    So I simply never buy records during July and August unless locally.
     
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  4. googlymoogly

    googlymoogly Forum Resident

    Kudos to your seller, who could very readily have declined to refund any amount, as he wasn't at fault here. When I lived in Texas, I didn't buy LPs during the summer months for reasons of the oppressive heat.
     
  5. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    In the summer.
     
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  6. Ghostworld

    Ghostworld Senior Member

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    Wow. If I were a mailman I wouldn't go near that thing. I'd think you were Dr. No expecting a shipment of plutonium.
     
  7. Alan2

    Alan2 Forum Resident

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    UK
    Over here you could definitely claim from Royal Mail for this. I don't know what the legal position in the USis, but would it be worth investigating? It's such a shame and is such ridiculous negligent behaviour on the part of the postal service.
     
  8. Hagstrom

    Hagstrom Please stop calling them vinyls.

    That sucks the record was ruined. I don't order anything during the summer months that could be ruined on boiling hot trucks.
     
  9. imarcq

    imarcq Men are from Mars, I'm from Bromley...

    Location:
    Sydney, Australia
    Well I guess it passed? ;) Any clues in the hot wax?
     
  10. action pact

    action pact Music Omnivore

    I found a delivery of an amp sitting in the middle of my driveway, out in the open. I guess the postman decided it was too heavy to carry to the door, the lazy bastard.
     
  11. The Beave

    The Beave My Wife Is My Life! And don’t I forget it!

    You Guys are BRUTAL!!! o_O

    LMAO!!
    the beave
     
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  12. Sam

    Sam Senior Member

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    Rochester, NY
    That doesn't sound right. I don't see how this was the seller's fault at all. You should have gone after the deliverer (No, not Moses). Sure, it was great that the seller gave you a refund, but man, that's what insurance is for. You caught a break, because there is no way that if I was the seller, and knew the record was great when it left my hands, that I would have issued a refund.
     
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  13. indy mike

    indy mike Forum Pest

    Sender should have spent the couple extra bucks at the post office for you to sign acknowledging delivery for something that valuable. I sell tubes here, and I require signature verification on orders over a few hundred dollars to cover both myself and the buyer to verify delivery. I wouldn't have even considered shipping a 5K item without some form of signature acknowledging the item showed up intact and made it to you as proof of receipt... :shake:
     
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  14. Dave B

    Dave B Senior Member

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    Nokomis, FL
    This is a sad story. Not only for your loss but the loss of one more great piece of vinyl. I once had an excellent Mailman who was nice enough to always put the record box between my screen door and front door so the sun wouldn't beat directly on it. Still they could get warmer than I would like. I try not to order any records during the months of June, July and August unless I know I'll be home when they are delivered.
     
  15. BuddhaBob

    BuddhaBob Forum Resident

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    Erie, PA, USA
    I have an amazing mail lady who took a shine to our black labrador retriever and seems to realize what high temps can do to LPs. She will ring the doorbell if she has any LPs for me and leaves them out of the sun with a note, even, if we are not home. Amazing.
     
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  16. Joey_Corleone

    Joey_Corleone Forum Resident

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    Rockford, MI
    Good luck getting the federal government to even acknowledge there is a problem, let alone pay for it lol
     
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  17. JL6161

    JL6161 Forum Resident

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    Michigan, USA
    To be fair, I'd have a hard time figuring out if I should blame the USPS or Phil Spector.

    [I kid; I kid Phil because I love]
     
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  18. Ash76

    Ash76 Wait actually yeah no

    Not knowing your situation, is it possibleto have future deliveries delivered to your work address? That's what I generally do.
     
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  19. drbryant

    drbryant Senior Member

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    Los Angeles, CA
    That's absolutely correct. If you run a Vinyl Flattener for too long, the record will be perfectly flat, but the groves will show damage (typically a mottled look)
     
  20. ggergm

    ggergm another spring another baseball season

    Location:
    Minnesota
    This makes me even more certain that what you heard was not caused by heat. As the records weren't warped, it would take just the right conditions to get them hot enough to melt the groove but not warp the vinyl.

    Nothing against the seller, but if I had a record I knew was iffy and I could sell it, I might send it and see if I got a complaint. If I did, I'd just refund the money. I'd only be out the Media Mail shipping which isn't much. Whether he throws it away because it's bad, or you throw it away because it's bad, it's still getting thrown away. This way, he might have made money by selling it instead.

    It is a no hits-no runs-no errors kind of deal so everything all worked out in the end. I just suspect the record was bad all along.
     
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  21. inperson

    inperson Senior Member

    Location:
    Ohio
    Do you really think these mail carriers are going to think about what's in every package they deliver? They don't have time to place everything in the shade, and if they did then someone would complain about bird droppings on the box. Those records also sit inside very hot vehicles on the way to your home. If you have a rural carrier then it is going to be sitting in the back seat for a few hours with the sun shining in on it. Life's not fair. We're to blame not the driver, unless the carrier threw it out the window on the way by and it landed in a puddle. These are the risks we all take ordering records by mail.
     
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  22. drbryant

    drbryant Senior Member

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    Los Angeles, CA
    Now that's a dark view of humanity!
     
  23. konut

    konut Prodigious Member. Thank you.

    Location:
    Whatcom County, WA
    He's so fine.
     
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  24. ggergm

    ggergm another spring another baseball season

    Location:
    Minnesota
    Agreed.

    Watch out now, take care
    Beware of the thoughts that linger
    Winding up inside your head
    The hopelessness around you
    In the dead of night
     
  25. MichaelXX2

    MichaelXX2 Dictator perpetuo Thread Starter

    Location:
    United States
    You know, the first email he sent back to me when I complained about the problem was "Would a 1/2 refund sound fair to you?" Maybe he was trying to see if I would be stupid enough to accept a partial refund for an item that's 85% worthless. I can think of better ways to rob the innocent though, like stealing an old lady's purse. Maybe then he would net more than $25 for his crime.
     
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