McCartney Album "NEW" (2013), part22

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  1. jeatleboe

    jeatleboe Forum Resident

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    I'm pretty sure he has said he went into the subway with the intention to do the video, and with the music playing and his lip-synching, and all. .. So in the Anthology interview footage with Paul at a stadium show with the stage and set-up in the background... was he really there on tour, or was it made up to give the impression that the interview was filmed while he was on tour?
     
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  2. revolution_vanderbilt

    revolution_vanderbilt Forum Resident

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    Probably from his early nineties world tour.
     
  3. jeatleboe

    jeatleboe Forum Resident

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    But maybe Paul set it up to only make it look like it was from his early nineties world tour. ;)
     
  4. Arnold Grove

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    Penny-pinching Paul?? No, he wouldn't do that.

    Arnie
     
  5. Frank

    Frank Senior Member

    Yes. But he wanted to give the impression that he was spontaneously cavorting with the rabble, not pre-screened probable actors who all signed a waiver to appear. How fortuitous that every age, gender and racial demographic was perfectly represented!

    I do believe that the tourside Anthology interviews were filmed during the New World tour. The hair matches, at least. Of course, he had plenty of time off and didn't need to do the interviews 50 feet away from thousands of adoring fans. But, hey, what's a worldwide rockstar to do?
     
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  6. dudley07726

    dudley07726 Forum Resident

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    It was filmed during his 1993 tour.
     
  7. heatherly

    heatherly Well-Known Member

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    He goes into as much detail as possible in the commentary track for the video on The McCartney Years.
    I love the song, FWIW.
    Moving on....
     
  8. Paul H

    Paul H The fool on the hill

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    Of course. But I genuinely don't think it likely. If nothing else, what were the crew there to do if not film him writing his song? I mean, if they were there to shoot some other footage, I doubt Macca would have thought it a good idea to bring his guitar so he can work on a song while he should be focussing on something else. If they were there specifically to film him writing a song, it seems a very contrived way to go about it, and not especially conducive to providing the inspiration needed to pen a modern classic.

    And yet I find them both disturbing and unpleasant. Your mileage obviously varies, so I'd not be so presumptuous as to suggest that they are "in no way" pleasant.
     
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  9. jeatleboe

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    You don't have to convince me of the 'correctness' of that. "Fortuitous" indeed. ;) But like I said, this is still a music video shoot.

    Back to the "Hosanna" mucking about footage - I don't believe that Paul "pretended" that he was just figuring out some words and chords and jotting them on paper all over again, after he'd already written and recorded it, just for the cameras. No more than I believe George wasn't truly helping Ringo out on "Octopus' Garden" as the cameras rolled.
     
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  10. Paul H

    Paul H The fool on the hill

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    Bless.
     
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  11. jeatleboe

    jeatleboe Forum Resident

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    "Don't think it likely", ..."If, ..." "I doubt..." "It seems...."
    It's all open to guessing. You could be right. Or I could be right. I suspect the real truth is, it depends on whether one enjoys the song or not.

    Remember what was discussed here recently about not laboring over needing to use "IMO" for everything?

    A person may interpret any song however they wish; that doesn't mean it was intended by its author. In 1989 Paul told a VHIcaller that LET IT BE's "Mother Mary" was referencing his own mother, not the Cathlolic Mary (as the caller had asked). But then Paul said whatever works for the listener is fine (nice of him, don't you think?). I'm not so sure he'd appreciate the interpretation that "Hosanna" was about forcing a woman into sex against her will if he did not intend that, though.

    Ever hear any Aeloian Cadences? :)

    Were "Day Tripper" and "Norwegian Wood" really about "prostitutes and lesbians"?
     
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  12. DmitriKaramazov

    DmitriKaramazov Senior Member

    "Yesterday" "Today" was "Tomorrow".......! :yikes:
     
  13. jeatleboe

    jeatleboe Forum Resident

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    With intent for the soon-to-be Anthology project, I would think.
     
  14. Bemagnus

    Bemagnus Music is fun

    I don t think there is anything spontaneous goin on in the films regarding Paul
    Most of the time I find them s-t-boring. Paul doin this, Paul doin that, Everyone admires Paul and laughs at his boring jokes and old stories about the Beatles. As much as I admire the mans music and general descensy , those ego-centric exesses in yes-sayers and forced spontanity I avoid like plague.But that is only my opnion-IMO.
     
  15. RayS

    RayS A Little Bit Older and a Little Bit Slower

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    If 100+ more hours of "New" composing footage shows up, I'd believe it was possible that the moment was spontaneously captured, as the "Octupus's Garden" moment was.
     
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  16. Arnold Grove

    Arnold Grove Senior Member

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    The things you learn on this Forum. Truly amazing stuff...

    ;) Arnie
     
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  17. RayS

    RayS A Little Bit Older and a Little Bit Slower

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    So less than 7 hours to go for the last show of the U.S. leg, and my last McCartney concert (I'm retiring, not him).

    Anyone have that "Men in Black" device to wipe the set list from my mind? Or should I convince myself that "Hell To Pay" in the encore is a legitimate possibility?
     
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  18. Frank

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    I'd posit that there are only two instances where we the public got a real, unfiltered, not phonied up look at who Paul McCartney is, and both of them were shot by Albert Maysles about 35 years apart. Everything else is prepackaged, scripted and vetted.

    Even in the First US Visit he's putting on airs, although the mask slips occasionally. But I found The Love We Make almost disturbing in the way Paul comes across. I was impressed that he let it out (a decade later).
     
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  19. jeatleboe

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    Would 9 or 10 hours be good enough? Seriously, I don't think the amount of un-used footage matters in the least. This new "Making of NEW" video/film here shows actual in-time recording and working in the studio in some cases. As an example: when the band members are gathered around Paul singing into the microphone to do harmonies for the song "New", was this staged ?
     
  20. RayS

    RayS A Little Bit Older and a Little Bit Slower

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    That footage in the car (where he suddenly feels the urgent need to get away from the crowd of fans) came across as a very real and revealing moment to me. After John was murdered and George was almost murdered, he just CAN'T be the "thumbs up" happy go lucky guy ALL the time.

    I think the "public" (or the small subsection who could sit through all the tapes) got a good look at the real Paul McCartney in the "Get Back" reels. He is the perfectionist that so many have claimed, but he generally goes about it in a passive-aggressive, rather than confrontational, manner.
     
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  21. Bemagnus

    Bemagnus Music is fun

    I never watched The Love we make. Well- meaning he might be but sometines it borders towards a very ego-centric, self-glorifaction. That s one of the sides of Paul I don t like. But he s not alone
     
  22. RayS

    RayS A Little Bit Older and a Little Bit Slower

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    My point regarding "Octupus's Garden" is that THAT moment was filmed because there was a crew there filming for about 10 hours that day, so it would be surprising if they MISSED the moment, rather than if they captured it. So the amount of raw footage IS a decent indicator of whether or not a filmed "spontaneous" moment is truly spontaneous.
     
  23. RayS

    RayS A Little Bit Older and a Little Bit Slower

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    I never listen to opinions that start with "I never watched ..." But that's just me, IMO. :)
     
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  24. Bemagnus

    Bemagnus Music is fun

    IMO you are the one who decides what opinions you will listen to or not. It s a personal choice that I can t have any objections about.
    But I still sincerely feel that Paul has a slight touch of meglomania. However- compared to Bono or Madonna he seems almost shy-IMO of course.:)
     
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  25. jeatleboe

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    This is a whole different thing, and I would agree with you on the matter of Paul not really being genuine all the time. If there is a camera rolling, you can be almost certain that Paul is going to play to that camera, and be very PR. Believe me, I have been a first-hand witness to Paul losing his cool in person, when there wasn't a camera recording 'Mr. Charming' - so I know! :)

    But the matter of him being captured working on a new song for a moment or two with his guitar? Maybe Paul would make a faux over-inspired expression or gesture, but I don't think it's quite the same thing as when he's greeting people on camera, for example.
     
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