Sinatra / Capitol: General Purpose Sound Quality (and more) Discussion Thread*

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by hodgo, Nov 10, 2009.

  1. paulmock

    paulmock Forum Resident

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    Being at the right place at the right time helps. I believe Bob F got his Silver Box for around the same amount a few years back.
     
  2. Bob F

    Bob F Senior Member

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    Yep, right place at the right time. I snagged mine on eBay for $132 plus shipping. Seller obviously didn't know the true value, and the listing title didn't attract attention. That was a real steal. I lucked out.
     
  3. bferr1

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    I just saw a silver box at the Newbury Comics in Norwood for $350. The outer box was a bit more warn than I would have liked, but the contents seemed to be in great shape. Unfortunately, I was not alone-- I was with my wife and little girl, so I walked out of there with the Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer CD soundtrack. True story.
     
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  4. paulmock

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    350 is too much
     
  5. bferr1

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    I think 350 is still better than average, at least on ebay.
     
  6. DaleH

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  7. bferr1

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    Embarrassing typo! :hide:
     
  8. bferr1

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  9. DaleH

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    Just saying that the buyer base seems to have disappeared, much to my dismay.:) I think I saw one go for under 200 recently.

    No affiliation with the sale but a last minute bid may get it cheap.

    After Christmas may be much harder to get a good price. Things seem to be going for half or less on bid at the moment.

    350 doesn't seem too bad to me if the vinyl is nice though.
     
  10. paulmock

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  11. paulmock

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    It looks the same as all the others....thanks for the kind words.
     
  12. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff

    FWIW, I just found another variation on this Australian disc, which is in my collection:
    DSC_0132.jpg

    Identical to:
    $_1.JPG

    and to:
    SinatraFront.jpg SinatraBack.jpg
    Honestly, did NOBODY at EMI Australasia notice that the image was reversed on that bottom one???
     
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  13. paulmock

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    Set just arrived . looks to be in rally fine shape...box and all. So I went back thru my scrapbooks to 1983-84 and gathered the ads etc. that were in print to hype the set along with a nice NY Times review. I must admit that I teared up a little bit when I first set eyes on it unwrapped. It was like welcoming back a friend that you haven't seen in 20 years. In fact, that's EXCATLY how I felt.

    OH, and BTW as far as discussing current pricing of the set. MSRP for the set back then was $350 which equals a tad over $850 USD today!!!! I got my original one for $275 from the late Gary Doctor of Buffalo.

    I may sleep with the goddamn thing tonight!!!!!
     
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  14. bozburn

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  15. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff

    An 8-track I had not seen before, FWIW:
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  16. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff

    Just picked up another oddball non-USA EMI CD:
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    Axis was the budget line for EMI in Australia/New Zealand, kind of like MFP in the UK. The initial release date for this one was 1987, at least in its original LP incarnation.

    This is one of those comps that strikes me as having some guy at the home office throw a bunch of Sinatra titles into a hat, and draw out a dozen or so at random. I mean....check out this running order (and sound quality notes):

    Wrap Your Troubles in Dreams - wet tapes used, lots of hiss
    Stormy Weather - forecast calls for wet and mono (Is the original mono mix heavy on the wetness? I forget....)
    I Can't Get Started - wet mono
    From Here to Eternity - Not really mono - tubby tone -
    Everybody Loves Somebody - mono, and not bad, actually!
    One for my Baby - mono, 3 seconds missing (yet ANOTHER 1980s release that used the defective mono master rather than the dropout-riddled stereo master. Mix preferences aside, which would you rather have: The complete, continuous song with some dropouts, or a dropout-free version that literally had 3 seconds missing during the body of the song? The song is playing....POOF! Part of the song is just missing. So weird.)
    Just One of Those Things - wet
    All the Way - Duophonic
    London by Night - Original stereo mix; beginning clipped off
    On the Road to Mandalay - original stereo mix
    On the Sunny Side of the Street - original stereo mix
    That Old Black Magic - original stereo mix
    September Song - original stereo mix; one of the better-presented tracks here, but still not all that good
    Chicago - "enhanced mono" from the All the Way album.

    How's that for an odd combination of songs and tape sources?????
     
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  17. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff

    Song folio (as we used to call them -- a collection of sheet music) called "This Is Sinatra," from Sinatra's own "Barton Music" company:
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    Clearly, the artwork is based on This is Sinatra, Volume 2. What an odd assortment of songs, though!
    $_57-43.JPG
    What's the story on "Forgetting You?"
     
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  18. Ronald Sarbo

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    "Forgetting You" was recorded by Dean Martin on Capitol.
     
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  19. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff

    For the March 6, 1962 session, was the recording order:

    1. I've Got a Right to Sing the Blues
    2. Boys Night Out

    or the other way around?
     
  20. jtaylor

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    You've got it straight.
     
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  21. Bob F

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    There was a third recording that night, a Van Heusen-Cahn song titled "Cathy" for Reprise (arranged by Billy May), but only the orchestra track was recorded.
     
  22. paulmock

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    Ah yes...the song he refused to record due to Jimmy Van Heusen's "association" with the botched JFK Palm Springs visit. Rather dark-mood in that recording session.
     
  23. colormesinatra

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    Paul,
    Please enlighten those of us who have no idea what you are talking about. Do tell.

    -Robert
     
  24. Ronald Sarbo

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    "Cathy" was recorded by Vic Damone on Capitol.
     
  25. bozburn

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    This was referenced in the HBO movie
    The Rat Pack, no?
     

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