"Cheers" in HD - Wow!

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  1. colinu

    colinu I'm not lazy, I'm energy saving! Thread Starter

    Flipping through the channels I just came across "Cheers" on a local channel - I have to say it is a beautiful transfer - widescreen, framed nicely for 16:9. Oh, the beauty of film!
     
  2. Vidiot

    Vidiot Now in 4K HDR!

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    Here we go again! Note that this is a show completely shot in 4-perf 35mm negative, framed for 4x3, and reframed and blown-up for 16x9! They did use a slightly bigger negative area during the 2K scans, so it's not a gross compromise, but many of the shots do still cut the actors off at the knees (necessary for 16x9).

    I agree, the guys at Sunset Post in Glendale who mastered this show did a terrific job on it. It's tremendously sharper and has better color than the show ever did in the 1980s. There was also a 4x3 version done at the same time, but I tend to doubt this will ever be seen outside of home video.
     
  3. rediffusion

    rediffusion Forum Resident

    I can think of nothing worse
     
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  4. dirwuf

    dirwuf Misplaced Chicagoan

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    Yeah, the show sucks when you can't see Norm's ankles...
     
  5. MMM

    MMM Forum Hall Of Fame

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    I always remember the show looking dark and kinda washed out looking in its original run and earlier syndication. Do you know why?

    I think around the time the show was issued on DVD, the television re-runs looked dramatically different, and a lot better overall.
     
  6. Vidiot

    Vidiot Now in 4K HDR!

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    Yeah, a couple of reasons: ABC did the original print transfers at their Prospect & Talmadge facility, and their equipment was crap, old 1970s RCA film chains. About halfway through the run (maybe 1986-1987), they started transferring from negative on Rank scanners and editing the show on tape, and it started looking better.

    I believe all those transfers were done by Modern Videofilm. That's also where we did all the syndication work on Happy Days and Laverne & Shirley. The last couple of seasons of these shows, around 1983-1984, were also transferred to tape for ABC because Paramount decided they'd rather give ABC a tape than a print. I did the last season of Laverne & Shirley myself, and have some funny memories of co-producer Tony Marshall coming in to supervise. This was the season where Shirley "mysteriously disappeared."

    BTW, I believe most of the Cheers episodes were mastered in HD by Craig Buddrick, who does very good work.
     
  7. lugnut2099

    lugnut2099 Forum Resident

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    I think, perhaps incorrectly, that WGN runs the remastered 4x3 version. Not positive if it's actually the remastered version or not, but it does seem to me to look quite a bit sharper than the old syndication package usually did.
     
  8. chicofishhead

    chicofishhead Forum Resident

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    At the station where I work we air Cheers in 4x3 every morning. I would say that they are definitely the non-remastered versions.
     
  9. Lucidae

    Lucidae AAD

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    I downloaded Cheers from the iTunes store, in 1080p HD, and I can confirm these are in 4x3 aspect ratio. Looks fantastic!
     
  10. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff

    MeTV shows this in 4:3. Looks very good on the remastered episodes. (Believe it or not, we have an oddball station here -- KVOS in Bellingham, WA -- that actually runs MeTV on its MAIN channel, not a subcarrier (or whatever the correct terminology is).
     
  11. daglesj

    daglesj Forum Resident

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    Been watching a few episodes shown on UK tv recently and it does look a great deal better than how I remember seeing it previously. Much sharper and more natural colours.

    However, I have found them easier to watch if I switch the TV to 4:3 mode. I think we are getting a stretch mode version.
     
  12. Quadboy

    Quadboy Forum Resident

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    i am finding a lot of annoying AR difference between UK Freeview channels when it comes to old TV US shows.
    e.g.
    Cagney and Lacey/Rockford Files on BBC2 recently was automatically in 16.9 stretch mode.so i hit the 4.3 option.
    yet other channels sometimes such as CBS Action [Hawaii Five-O] display correctly on automatic mode.
    you'd expect the BBC would be the ones getting it right..........not wrong.
     
  13. driverdrummer

    driverdrummer Forum Resident

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    Where can these HD episodes be found? I'd like to buy them.
     
  14. Vidiot

    Vidiot Now in 4K HDR!

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    No idea. There's all kinds of stuff that's been transferred, mastered, and then vaulted. I have no idea why the studios and distributors sit on shows like this. Seinfeld has been done on HD for about 8-9 years now, and as far as I know that's not out in Blu-ray. I have no idea why Sony is dragging their heels on this, unless they're just too distracted with North Korean terrorists to worry about Seinfeld at the moment.
     
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