Why the Term Needledrops?

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by laughalot, Dec 19, 2014.

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  1. laughalot

    laughalot Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Maybe I am just old.

    Recording an LP to Tape, be it Cassette or Reel to Reel, used to be referred to as just that.

    When and why did it change
     
  2. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff

    I generally say "dub" or "transfer." Needledrop is not my favorite term, but it seems to be what people to with their vinyls. :eek:
     
  3. Locutus67

    Locutus67 Forum Resident

    The term is a bit clunky, but it gets the point that it's sourced from vinyl clear enough.
    I'd rather hear someone say they made a 'drop from their vinyl over they ripped their vinyl any day.
    You can't 'rip' the music from an LP. Obviously you can from a CD at high speed, hence the expression of ripping it.
    I don't rip my own vinyl nor do I download others vinyl rips. I've got plenty of nice needledrops though. :laugh:
     
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  4. laughalot

    laughalot Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Dub was another term, but we used to use that when transferring from one tape to another.

    I always had a decent system, and friends used to say "If I bring you a tape (cassette) Can you record it (referring to a LP) for me.

    Don't like the term needledrop, makes me think of letting your tone arm fall from a height and damaging the stylus.
     
  5. gojira

    gojira Active Member

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    I was just about to ask the same question regarding that term. Sounds like a heroine addict getting a fix but hey-what do I know-still listen to vinyl and cds.......:magoo:
     
  6. Beattles

    Beattles Senior Member

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    Needledrop n. Disposal point for safely disposing of used needles.

    Vinyl transfer n. Proceedure by which a digital recording is made from an analog vinyl source.

    Vinyls n. One of several man made polyester materials used to make LPs, 45s, seatcovers and siding and more.
     
  7. laughalot

    laughalot Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Don't believe a S is needed in vinyl unless it used as vinyl's. EG it was vinyl's turn to show how it should sound.
     
  8. Jim T

    Jim T Forum Resident

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    Needle-Drop....It is very descriptive term for moving vinyl to a digital format, just as tape-transfer would be. 3 syllables works for me.
     
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  9. Ben Adams

    Ben Adams Forum Resident

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    "Put the needle on the record and hear the drumbeats go like this...."
     
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  10. Beattles

    Beattles Senior Member

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    That's the possesive form with the ' s. Plural would be vinyls, ie. multiple types of vinyl. There are many colored vinyls used to make records.
    Not a serious definition of vinyls.
     
  11. Schoolmaster Bones

    Schoolmaster Bones Poe's Lawyer

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    I never use the term outside of this forum.
     
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  12. laughalot

    laughalot Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Vinyl as Fish is both singular and Plural
     
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  13. Colin M

    Colin M Forum Resident

    My Christmas tree is guaranteed not to suffer from needledrop.
     
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    BradOlson Country/Christian Music Maven

  15. floweringtoilet

    floweringtoilet Forum Resident

    It's another instance of drug slang from the beatniks making its way into popular culture, much like "Don't have a cow," and "Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?"
     
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  16. laughalot

    laughalot Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Who is John Galt?
     
  17. gloomrider

    gloomrider Well-Known Member

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  18. nm_west

    nm_west Forum Resident

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    We used to "TAPE" Lp's and "DUB" Cassettes and R2R's. Then, digital came into play. ;)
     
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  19. fogalu

    fogalu There is only one Beethoven

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    Maybe it means the record has no surface noise and you could hear a needle drop? :hide:
     
  20. dkmonroe

    dkmonroe A completely self-taught idiot

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    Yup, dub is what you do with tapes. I recorded a lot of LP's to tape in the 80's, but I don't remember having a term for it, but a dub was always copying a cassette to another cassette.

    I think "needledrop" is just fine. One doesn't have to think that the needle is actually being "dropped." "Needle-gently-lower-so-as-to-not-damage-the-record-or-stylus" is too many words.

    Ah, there ya go!
     
  21. Grant

    Grant Life is a rock, but the radio rolled me!

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  22. Muzyck

    Muzyck Pardon my scruffy hospitality

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    The word "dub" to me infers a degree of degradation.
     
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  23. Metralla

    Metralla Joined Jan 13, 2002

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    I don't like the term but it is in common usage - and that's how language changes over time.
     
  24. Licorice pizza

    Licorice pizza Livin’ On The Fault Line

    Me too. It kinda sounds like something you'd clean up under a bird cage.
     
  25. forthlin

    forthlin Member Chris & Vickie Cyber Support Team

    Working in the realm of tape you're absolutely correct. A dub will suffer generational loss, and if it's a dub of a dub...don't get me started. And speaking of dubs ...

     
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