Being let down by a CD . .

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Alan2, May 17, 2015.

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  1. eelkiller

    eelkiller One of the great unwashed

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    Some of the older Edsel CD's sound just fine, check out their Youngbloods, Jesse Colin Young, Taj Mahal discs for example. It is pick and choose just like most labels.
     
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  2. My guess is the first. The original master was in the U.S. And even the later LP pressings were a needle drop of the first pressing. The remaster with bonus tracks was the first time in years thst the masters were used.

    It's also mentioned I the liner notes for the reissue.
     
  3. I agree ever since their current director Will Jennings took over, the quality has dropped. I. Some cases though you'll see a quality release, then one that is absolute crap.

    For example The Sound reissues use a mix of every good needle drops (tapes disappeared ages ago for the later albums). The QC for the set is very good despite the multiple sources which iput down to the involvement of their drummer in the reissues as he did QC and when asked was upfront about which sources exist for tape and which exist from LP.
     
  4. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialistâ„¢

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    Prefer the MFSLs where applicable and I'm not going to say what other labels pressings as I'm still trying to find some and they're very scarce these days.
     
  5. botley

    botley Forum Resident

    I'm never buying a single product of theirs ever again, no matter the vintage. If they can't be arsed to exercise real QC anymore, or even provide decent customer service when someone points out a legitimate problem with their product, then why should I give them any money?
     
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  6. eelkiller

    eelkiller One of the great unwashed

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    I should have clarified the titles I was referring to, I own Elephant Mountain and the 2 Taj Mahal Mofi discs. Edsel did the first two Youngbloods and Taj Mahal CD's and they are very well done IMO.
     
  7. eelkiller

    eelkiller One of the great unwashed

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    The ones I refer to are OOP, you would have to buy them used so they already have their share of the pie. You would not be giving them one red cent.
     
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  8. bruce2

    bruce2 Forum Resident

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    Peter Framptons two albums on Lemon records are easily the worst sounding discs in my collection and it ticks me off because I like both albums especially Breaking All the Rules with Jeff Porcaro playing great drums.
     
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  9. Alan2

    Alan2 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Much interesting comment here, guys.

    Just to add: I now find myself wondering about other Edsel Cds I already own, which have never sounded wonderful: the Melanie reissues which came out a few years back, for example.
     
  10. Alan2

    Alan2 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    That's the worst thing to be told. Alongside 'you're the only one who has complained'.


    On the positive side, praise is due to the label who released the Bonnie Dobson CD recently: I emailed them about the sources used and they not only replied telling me, but told me not to buy as there was a mastering error and the disc had to be re-done. I don't know how many are in circulation.
     
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  11. Bobby Morrow

    Bobby Morrow Senior Member

    Times have changed!

    I don't want to slag off Cherry Red/Pop too much as they put out albums no one else seems to care about. The Fox album is very, very bad. I'd tell you to listen to it on Spotify but they haven't the nerve to put it on! CR do use vinyl rips occasionally, but they're tastefully done with the crackles and pops 'taken out'. Sadly the Fox album missed the latter process...
     
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  12. Scope J

    Scope J Senior Member

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    the last four or five i think
     
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  13. driverdrummer

    driverdrummer Forum Resident

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    The Runner debut from 1979 sounds like an 8 track from that year.
     
  14. MadMelMon

    MadMelMon Forum Resident

    Hmm...off to compare. I never played the CD much, I forget which release I even have...
     
  15. 93curr

    93curr Senior Member

    Last three. And they're apparently speeded up on every CD edition so far. Dojo did it for their first twofer and apparently every edition since has just "remastered" theirs from the same disc.
     
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  16. Partyslammer

    Partyslammer Lord Of The New Church

    Speaking of "official" albums released from needledrop sources, has Motley Crue's first album with the original Leathur/pre-Elektra mix ever been released from the master tape source and not a vinyl source? AFAIK, only the couple tracks on a Japanese EP cd put out in the late 80's has non-vinyl sourced songs from the Leathur mix.
     
  17. driverdrummer

    driverdrummer Forum Resident

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    I was stoked to hear Foo Fighters-Wasting Light, especially with it being an analog recording. I became nauseous when hearing White Limo. Returned it on the same day.
     
  18. Bob J

    Bob J Forum Resident

    I have only one Lemon CD, "Stranger in the City" by John Miles but haven't played it in a long time so I can't comment on the SQ right now. I bought it mainly because one of the bonus tracks was the seriously rocking B-side, "House on the Hill".
     
  19. Alan2

    Alan2 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Hi Alan,

    Thank you for your email and please do accept our apologies that you are not happy with the sound quality of this CD.

    I have spoken to the label manager who has informed me that we were given the master by Dave Greenslade' s representatives and were told it was approved by Mr Greenslade himself. There are no plans to re-issue it using different sound sources.

    Please may we suggest applying for a refund from the original retailer.

    With thanks and apologies we cannot be of any further help.
    DMG


    I emailed Edsel and this was their reply. Comments anyone?
     
  20. ranasakawa

    ranasakawa Forum Resident

    Send it back for a refund
     
  21. Vaughan

    Vaughan Forum Resident

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    Yeah, I ended up paying for the Japanese Mini LP....
     
  22. Alan2

    Alan2 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Sadly I'm outside the amazon period eligible for refund. See above for Edsel's reply to my email. ^
     
  23. bruce2

    bruce2 Forum Resident

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    Are you talking about the shm-cd? I was considering buying that but it was on the pricey side. How is the sound compared to the Lemon? I do have the shm of Frampton Art of Control, and while better than the Lemon discs it still sounds pretty rough to my ears, very loud and possibly distorted.
     
  24. Vaughan

    Vaughan Forum Resident

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    Yes, it's the SHM. As to quality - I have to be honest and say it's been a while since I listened to it. Let me give it a listen and report back, I'd hate to take a stab about a distant recollection.
     
  25. Jim B.

    Jim B. Senior Member

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    Chalk it up to experience and don't waste any more time getting angry about it, it's just not worth it.
     
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