Simon & Garfunkel - Best Vinyl summary

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by irwin_69, Jul 27, 2011.

  1. Easy-E

    Easy-E Forum Resident

    Yep thats the right stuff - the stereo has the S in front of the BPG and that one has 33 1/3 on the left under the ' <stereo> ' writing.

    So the mono wont have the S and hopefully just 33 - doesnt matter if it doesnt - the matrices are what matter - 1A B2 or B3
     
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  2. marcfeld69

    marcfeld69 Forum Resident

    Thanks. What I remember doesn't look like the matrix you quote. I am not sure but I don't remember seeing a minus sign anywhere in that series, and the A was at the beginning.

    I think it probably doesn't make that much difference as this is a UK mono and there weren't that many issues, looking at discogs, but I will check.
     
  3. Easy-E

    Easy-E Forum Resident

    Hmmm..well the matrix should be BPG62690-A1 and BPG62691-B2 or B3

    Take a photo of it and then write it up and well see what it is :)
     
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  4. marcfeld69

    marcfeld69 Forum Resident

    O.K. That seems pretty clear now. Will do.
     
  5. Easy-E

    Easy-E Forum Resident

    Cos its it not that it must be something else not UK which seems unlikely
     
  6. john lennonist

    john lennonist There ONCE was a NOTE, PURE and EASY...


    Any one know if that holds true for the Japanese pressing:

    “GREATEST HITS”
    JAPANESE
    COLUMBIA # 25AP 1367


    LABEL: RED CBS SONY. JASRAC

    BACK COVER
    : On bottom, in tiny print, among other stuff: Manufactured by CBS SONY Inc. (Tokyo Japan)

    STAMPERS:
    A: (machine stamped) 25AP-1367A1 [squiggle in circle logo = JVC?] 1 C 9(?) +
    B: (machine stamped) 25AP-1367B1 1 G 2

    ??
     
  7. McLover

    McLover Senior Member

    Don't know about the Japanese version, it might sound better. The LP is worth having for the live tracks anyway, so why not score it?
     
  8. john lennonist

    john lennonist There ONCE was a NOTE, PURE and EASY...


    Thanks, McLover.
     
  9. nicotinecaffeine

    nicotinecaffeine Forum Resident

    Location:
    Walton, KY
    The only S&G where I have both the stereo and mono is Parsley and Bookends.

    Parsley mono is a little beefier than it's stereo counterpart, but seems to bury a lot compared to what's on the stereo.

    Bookends - no contest, mono all the way. But, if you're stuck only finding stereo - definitely go with the first batch (360 Sound). The later 1970-and-beyond pressing is a hollow weak mess.
     
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  10. irwin69

    irwin69 Forum Resident

    Location:
    France
    My UK mono deadwax information is 62690-A4 and 62690-B4. There are NO letters before the number and the matrix is machine stamped.

    I am not sure there are mono versions with A or B1 or A or B2 matrices.

    I would personally recommend the US two eye mono over the UK release.
     
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  11. marcfeld69

    marcfeld69 Forum Resident

    In the shop where I saw the UK mono, they wrote MAT -4/-4 on the information slip, so maybe it's the same as yours.
     
  12. Chip TRG

    Chip TRG Senior Member

    Let us not forget the QUAD cut of BOTW. A few alternate edits (mostly just added notes on a few intros, no vari-speed on Baby Driver, IIRC), but some of the mixes are much nicer than the stereo counterparts. THE ONLY LIVING BOY IN NY is essential in Quad, as it eliminates the artificial double-tracking/flange effect on the vocal and gives us to it clean (albeit wet with reverb which sounds beautiful)
     
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  13. irwin69

    irwin69 Forum Resident

    Location:
    France
    Definitely worth checking the deadwax before buying.

    I have a mono labelled Bookends but the cut is stereo. That said it's actually easily to tell a UK mono Bookends as the matrix is hand etched unlike the stereo which is machine stamped.
     
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  14. marcfeld69

    marcfeld69 Forum Resident

    Thanks. I'd forgotten about the handetching. So should I be looking for a hand-etched something or other for SOS? I am sure that the number is machine-stamped. I still have to go back and check the matrix yet.
     
  15. irwin69

    irwin69 Forum Resident

    Location:
    France
    No. SOS is machine stamped. Only Bookends mono is etched.
     
  16. AppleCorp3

    AppleCorp3 Forum Resident

    I bought a brand new 180g German pressing and while I love the sound, it has never played quietly. Lots if surface noise and artifacts.

    I do need a good version of this on vinyl too.
     
  17. Calico

    Calico Senior Member

    Location:
    Belgium
    I have two UK copies of "Bridge Over Troubled Water" on the orange CBS label, could someone please tell me which is the first pressing?

    Copy one has a laminated front cover.
    Matrix numbers are:
    Side 1 - S63699-A followed by a small bump in the vinyl which prevents me from reading the figure that comes here
    Side 2 - S63699-B8

    Side 1 label has the mention "Trad.: Arr. Jorge Milchberg/Paul Simon" under "El Condor Pasa"

    Copy two has a non-laminated front cover.
    Matrix numbers are:
    Side 1 - SBPG 63699 A1
    Side 2 - SBPG 63699 B1

    Side 1 label has no specific mention for "El Condor Pasa".

    Thanks for any info!
     
    Last edited: May 27, 2015
  18. Classicrock

    Classicrock Senior Member

    Location:
    South West, UK.
    If you can't get originals I would strongly recommend the Sundazed reissues pressed at QRP. I do think S&G are best heard in stereo (based on hearing a mono PSRT). If you can, seek out the Classic Records BOTW.
     
  19. mrgroove01

    mrgroove01 Still looking through bent-backed tulips

    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    In the UK, A1's/B1's are often first.
     
  20. Jae

    Jae Senior Member

    The SBPG is first.
     
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  21. Calico

    Calico Senior Member

    Location:
    Belgium
    Thank you Jae and MrGroove.
    I was assuming the record with the laminated sleeve came first.
     
  22. c-eling

    c-eling Dinner's In The Microwave Sweety

    Found a sealed Bookends "Best Seller Series Silver Nice Price" re-issue w/barcode the other day at the thrift, how's the sound on this puppy? If it's good i'll open her up an play/keep it, if not I'll sell it, thanks!
     
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2015
  23. emily_porter

    emily_porter New Member

    I have inherited two Simon and Garfunkel BOTW vinyl pressings.. One two eye and a 1972 pressing with Grammy hype stickers on shrink.. Both sound superb.. If you want to get an excellent pressing cheap then ignore the first hyped two eye and go for the 1972 Columbia,Columbia label..
     
  24. RHCD

    RHCD Reverend Bong

    Spindle holes are very easy to enlarge!
     
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  25. EddieT

    EddieT Forum Resident

    Location:
    London UK
    UK orange A14/B8 here. Sounds lovely to me but not got any other copies to compare
     

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