Licensed to Ill. Great album, bad sound. Why?

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  1. Cracklebarrel

    Cracklebarrel Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I like lo-fi stuff. I have a grip on the various ways recordings are made and the pathways to the final distributable.

    Why does every version I've heard (vinyl, cassette, CD) sound similarly flat and sonically lifeless?
     
  2. Hagstrom

    Hagstrom Please stop calling them vinyls.

    I can tell you aren't listening to it the right way. In order to properly enjoy it, you need to pack a room with some friends, some booze, and some cheapo speakers and have a party.
     
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  3. vamborules

    vamborules Forum Resident

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    It was made to sound good on one of these.

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  4. ModernDayWarrior

    ModernDayWarrior Senior Member

    What's the time? It's time to Budweis... :)
     
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  5. ModernDayWarrior

    ModernDayWarrior Senior Member

    I'm actually surprised there hasn't been a deluxe edition of this album.
     
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  6. attym

    attym Forum Resident

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    I've always thought it sounded wonderful.... Different strokes.
     
  7. noname74

    noname74 Allegedly Canadian

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    If there's one album that doesn't need any audiophile foolishness it's that one. Enjoy it for what it is.
     
  8. Dennis0675

    Dennis0675 Hyperactive!

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    When no one is playing any instruments or singing, is it important to have a lot of detail and clarity?
     
  9. Combination

    Combination Forum Resident

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    Not in every case. Why would that be crucial 100% of the time? I trust the ears of the Beastie Boys on this one.
     
  10. Dennis0675

    Dennis0675 Hyperactive!

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    That's my point. Classical music needs high sonic quality. Samples and beats need flavor and style.

    I saw the license to ill tour and i would guess that the boys got limited production time and support for that first record. They were a gamble for what was a small lable. The fact that they hit big was a shock.

    I am on the side of feeling that the album sounds great. I'm not going to put it on to test new speaker cables but it is a watershed recording.
     
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  11. jason202

    jason202 Forum Resident

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    Why isn't this album in print on vinyl? There's an entry on Discogs for a 2LP reissue by Def Jam in 2005, but I question whether or not it's legit. I've never seen anything other than the original pressing, and there are no reviews or copies for sale on there.
     
  12. krlpuretone

    krlpuretone Forum Resident

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    I vaguely recall that pressing but it disappeared fast - I think DefJam/American changed their distribution deal right around that time?
     
  13. jason202

    jason202 Forum Resident

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    They need to reissue this LP, preferably in the original single disc configuration. They'd sell a ton of them. Good examples are very expensive.
     
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  14. Claus

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    The original CD/LP sounds bad and the remaster is even worse. A remix would be a good idea.
     
  15. McLover

    McLover Senior Member

    It is what it is! A fun party Rap record. Not for the Krell crowd. Sonic masterpiece it is not. This one is for the Flava.
     
  16. John Bliss

    John Bliss Forum Resident

    You're getting your wish it sounds like. Soundstage Direct sent out an upcoming releases email mentioning this. No release date.
     
  17. jason202

    jason202 Forum Resident

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    I can't wait!

    MusicDirect has it on preorder with a release date of September 2.
     
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  18. mikemoon

    mikemoon Forum Resident

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    The original lps sounds great. The sound is huge are you turn up the volume. This isn't for the audiophile crowd maybe but if you like good sounding mid-late 80s hip-hop, this is up there at the top of the list.

    The reissue vinyl from early 2000s sounds very average. Likely cut from a 16/44 file.

    I always thought the original cd sounded weak in my car at least.
     
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  19. Vinyl Addict

    Vinyl Addict Forum Resident

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    I have an original and it sounds great to my ears.
     
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  20. Seth

    Seth Forum Resident

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  21. Hymie the Robot

    Hymie the Robot Forum Resident

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    There was a college radio station that played the full songs from EVERY sample on this album. LA station I believe. Pretty cool, wish I would have caught more of it...
     
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  22. KeninDC

    KeninDC Hazy Cosmic Jive

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    Original LP sounds monster through my Krell. I was too poor to own a CD player when this one came out. Now I'm stuck with the original vinyl, alas.
     
  23. McLover

    McLover Senior Member

    And yes, while I am not a much of a hip hop fan, I do like this album. But it is what it is. Fun listen.
     
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  24. Arkay_East

    Arkay_East Forum Resident

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    I have a vinyl copy that is fairly well trashed and it still sounds great. It has held up beyond expectations. As for the engineering ... Yup sounds like an 80s rap album.
     
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  25. dogpile

    dogpile Generation X record spinner.

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    I have a 1986 Canadian pressing and I think it sounds very good for a "rap" album :laughup:
     
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