I feel like a better person now...spent some money on the room acoustics*

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  1. WHitese

    WHitese Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    North Bergen, NJ
    Well, I finally did it...spent some money on the room acoustics...4 ceiling corner triangles and 2 diffusers that I placed behind my Cabasse'...Boy, that stuff does help.

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  2. toddrhodes

    toddrhodes Forum Resident

    Location:
    South Bend, IN
    Glad you are enjoying them! Mine are easily removable and every now and again I take them down and take in the difference. Mine are just 2 x 4' panels of 4" thick OC703 and the difference isn't subtle, and I greatly prefer them to be in place.
     
  3. Rockos

    Rockos Forum Resident

    I thought I was going to read someone donated their stereo to a needy kid or something.
     
  4. Captain Wiggette

    Captain Wiggette Forum Resident

    Location:
    Seattle
    I thought somebody bought a really expensive component.
     
  5. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff

    Thread re-titled now due to forum guidelines:
    Not a new rule......
     
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  6. WHitese

    WHitese Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    North Bergen, NJ
    Thanks MLutthans.... hate making Gorts roll their eyes at me...:o
     
  7. Dentdog

    Dentdog Forum Resident

    Location:
    Atlanta
    Nothing has changed in my setup since I swapped in my cart. For me, acoustics and electricity hold more answers now. Got two more traps to build and maybe a Helmholtz resonator. Got the bass trap to cover the TV and the back wall from GIK. Tri traps in the corners and a BPT Sig Plus 3.5 for the juice.
    Got a pretty good idea for a variable Helmholtz resonator to catch a particularly noticeable 75-90 hz area. Lucky in that I drive right past GIK once a week.
     
  8. Rolltide

    Rolltide Forum Resident

    Location:
    Vallejo, CA
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  9. toddrhodes

    toddrhodes Forum Resident

    Location:
    South Bend, IN
    That looks like a pretty good deal to me, for a handmade item? I do like Etsy :) So, if one has front wall and first reflections covered, in a small square room, where would those be best suited? I have a curtain to my immediate right to quell a reflection that was driving me nuts for weeks. I also have a very thick trap behind my head. I'm wondering if a pair of those diffusers could go on the front wall, between the other traps (under the TV in my setup)?
     
  10. Rolltide

    Rolltide Forum Resident

    Location:
    Vallejo, CA
    I know front wall is a common location for diffusers, and its where the two I purchased are going. I'm also going to put some foam diffusers on the ceiling above my speakers.
     
  11. tim185

    tim185 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Australia
    Unless your running dipole speakers, or you have a rear wall mere feet behind you, diffusers on the front wall will do pretty much bugger all. Put them on the rear wall if 1D type, or if skyline 2D type diffusers, put them on the ceiling. And make surer whatever you do, you sit far enough away from them. Depending on their operating range this will vary, but on average you want be at least 10 feet away from them or you will get some nasty phasing anomolies.
     
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  12. toddrhodes

    toddrhodes Forum Resident

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    South Bend, IN
    In my case I do sit very close to the rear wall, I have a 6" trap hanging horizontally behind my head to help (and it does). My ceiling is actually exposed joists with insulation between, but not so much it kills all the high frequency energy. I could try them on the front wall and play with placement, that's not a big deal. Anyway, sorry for the derail :)
     
  13. WHitese

    WHitese Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    North Bergen, NJ
    My room has an open area behind the listening area...to one side are windows and the other speaker is about 8 ft from the side wall...
     
  14. raferx

    raferx Forum Resident

    Location:
    Vancouver, Canada
    I grabbed thick, lined velvet drapes and some broadband acoustic panels this past week for the listening room... improvement is not subtle.

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  15. WHitese

    WHitese Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    North Bergen, NJ
    This might be what I try behind the gear....

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  16. jcmusic

    jcmusic Forum Resident

    Location:
    Terrytown, La.
    Putting acoustic's is a great start and helps a lot but, you really need to Eq most rooms along with the room treatment to get a nice flat curve!!!
     
  17. tim185

    tim185 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Australia
    Flat ,or close to it is what you want for mixing. For HiFi, all bets are off. One mans poison...a well held house curve many many use rolls of 3db per octave after 10khz and has a 3db or so rise from 200hz or so down. That's rough, I'm just picturing it. One thing Hifi and mixing have in common is some sort of control over low end decay. That unchecked and out of control is really going to screw things up quickly.
     
  18. McLover

    McLover Senior Member

    Room acoustic treatment beats equalizers. Very few equalizers are worth their price. Most fail at doing their job without introducing noise, hum, and distortion. Therefore, most are not transparent. Most of the few good units are aimed at high end studio use.
     
  19. action pact

    action pact Music Omnivore

    My room is a mere 8" x 12", so reflections were a major problem. I constructed a few large wall panels with Owens Corning 703 and it made a huge improvement.
     
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  20. WHitese

    WHitese Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    North Bergen, NJ
    I take a very relaxed approach to this hobby....cool gear and music is what mainly interests me...But now that I have found some inexpensive panels, I tried it and loved the result...

    I think my room is also about 8 x12..one short wall has windows, the opposite has a dining table...One of the long walls is where the gear and speakers are, opposite there is an 8 ft. opening into the kitchen from about 5ft to 8ft ...I sit with that opening right above my head...
     
  21. Hammmerhead

    Hammmerhead Member

    The room treatments are something you cant really appreciate until they are actually hanging in your own listening area. I hung 10, 2 feet by 4 feet panels in a 20' X 20' room and it changed everything. No more echos, reverbs, etc. Its strange how taking away these annoyances brings the music to the forefront and allows you to hear all of the low level details in the music that you likely never heard before.
     
  22. Tullman

    Tullman Senior Member

    Location:
    Boston MA
    Yes, and good eq's go for about $10,000. I'd rather spend some money on room treatment.
     
  23. McLover

    McLover Senior Member

    Agreed. Fix the room acoustics first. The improvements gained can be major.
     
  24. Thing Fish

    Thing Fish “Jazz isn't dead. It just smells funny.”

    Location:
    London, England
    I hung a couple of acoustic panels on the wall behind my head. The difference was quite astounding.
     
  25. Hipper

    Hipper Forum Resident

    Location:
    Herts., England
    The Behringer DEQ2496 I use cost around $300. I don't hear any 'noise, hum, and distortion'. Indeed a friend of mine who knows a bit about sound reproduction said that digital EQ smears transients. I listened for this with and without EQ but didn't notice anything, maybe partly because the sound was no longer to my liking because of lack of EQ.

    I'd suggest you consider speaker and ear positioning, room treatment, then EQ in that order.
     
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