Sinatra CDs on Jazz Heritage label?

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  1. czeskleba

    czeskleba Senior Member Thread Starter

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    In the used record store I saw a couple of Capitol-era Sinatra CDs on the "Jazz Heritage" label (In the Wee Small Hours and Come Dance with Me). On the back it says licensed from Capitol Records, copyright 1998. The cover photos on each look a little blurry. Anyone familiar with these? Are these legit releases? Do they use the Walsh mastering, the Nordberg, or do they feature their own unique mastering?
     
    czeskleba, Sep 21, 2003
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  2. Gary Freed

    Gary Freed Forum Resident

    A very good question that perhaps MMM our Sinatra Scholar in residence might be able to answer.

    Both albums are Sinatra Classics and two of my all time favorites.

    I'm curious about this too.

    Martin, can you tell us anything.

    Best regards,

    Gary
     
    Gary Freed, Sep 21, 2003
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  3. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host

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    C'mon now, a little more info, please.

    What is the country of origin?

    I'm sure they cloned the blechy No-Noised masters. I doubt they would go back to the originals, and even if they did, they would automatically No-Noise them going through the system.
     
    Steve Hoffman, Sep 21, 2003
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  4. RDK

    RDK Active Member

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    Jazz Heritage, I believe, is a mail-order club, like a jazz version of Columbia House. I believe all their discs are digital clones, but I've never compared any side-by-side.
     
    RDK, Sep 22, 2003
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  5. MMM

    MMM Forum Hall Of Fame

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    I've never seen these - sorry.

    1998 - that's when the first Norberg Sinatra Capitol album remasters came out. The Norberg masters of In the Wee Small Hours and Come Dance With Me was first released then. I'll take a guess and say these are copies of those, but don't hold me to it :).
     
    MMM, Sep 22, 2003
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  6. czeskleba

    czeskleba Senior Member Thread Starter

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    US origin. The discs were in those plastic CD holders that used stores use, so I couldn't see the inside of the booklets for more info (guess I could have asked the clerk, but I didn't).
     
    czeskleba, Sep 22, 2003
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  7. Joel Cairo

    Joel Cairo Video Gort / Paiute Warrior Staff

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    I'm going to dredge up this thread, because I found a Jazz Heritage copy of "Come Swing With Me", which according to the booklet, uses a "remastered" (that's the word they use) 1991 Larry Walsh version. It's stereo, and catalog #515021K.

    Any quick way to tell if this is actually the re-mix?
     
    Joel Cairo, Aug 27, 2015
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  8. MMM

    MMM Forum Hall Of Fame

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    If sourced from Larry's as stated, it's a then (1991) new mix.
     
    MMM, Aug 27, 2015
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  9. Bob F

    Bob F Senior Member

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    It's almost certainly the 1991 Walsh mix. Those Jazz Heritage CDs were dated 1998, but the Norberg version of Come Swing With Me! was not released until 2000. (In the Concepts cardboard box set; the single CD issue was in 2002.)

    It was demonstrated definitively in another thread that the Jazz Heritage reissue of Where Are You? was the 1991 Walsh version. See these posts:

    —> The FRANK SINATRA recordings thread
    —> Sinatra / Capitol Sound Quality and General Discussion: "Where Are You?" (1957 album)
     
    Bob F, Aug 27, 2015
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  10. Ronald Sarbo

    Ronald Sarbo Forum Resident

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    I like Jazz Heritage version of the Australian 59 show with Red Norvo. It is complete...not missing the Norvo solo like the Blue Note CD. I also like that they list the songs on the CD itself.
     
    Ronald Sarbo, Aug 27, 2015
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  11. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff

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    Wee Small Hours on Jazz Heritage: http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threa...recordings-thread.161334/page-22#post-4727255

    I've got some Jazz Heritage CDs, such as the great BILLIE HOLIDAY on Decca set that @Steve Hoffman did back in, I think, around 1989, and the Jazz Heritage set is a very straightforward reissue of the Decca/MCA/GRP set, but in a dual jewel case. Mastering is identical, liner notes are reprinted, etc. All corporate logos are removed, and the Jazz Heritage Society logo is used in their place. That's it.
     
    MLutthans, Aug 27, 2015
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