Octopus by Gentle Giant - the Steven Wilson Treatment

Will there be a tour to support the remix?

 

Ouch! Those are strong tracks, but knots and a cry for everyone are the 2 I most look forward to in 5.1.

My crazy wish: add the side 2 tracks from the Missing Piece in 5.1 as bonus material.

 

Knots Lyrics
All in all each man in all men
All men in each man
He can see she can't, she can see
She can
See whatever, whatever
You may know what I don't know
But not that
I don't know it and I can't tell you
So you will

To tell me all man in all men
All men in each man
He can see she can't, she can see
She can
See whatever, whatever
You may know what I don't know
But not that
I don't know it and I can't tell you
So you will have to tell me all

It hurts him to think that she is
Hurting her by him being hurt to think
That she thinks he is hurt by making her
Feel guilty at hurting him by her thinking
She wants him to want her. Her wants
Her to
Want him to get him to want him to get
Him to want her she pretends

He tries to make her afraid by not
Being afraid. (permutations)

You may know what I don't know, but not
That I don't know it and I can't
Tell you so you will have to tell
Me all

I get what I deserve. I deserve what I
Get. I have it so I deserve it. I deserve
It for I have it. I get what I deserve
What I deserve - what I deserve what
I get
I have it so I deserve

He tries to make her afraid by not
Being afraid

Songwriters
RAY SHULMAN, PHILIP ARTHUR SHULMAN, KERRY CHURCHILL MINNEAR, DEREK VICTOR SHULMAN

 

3rd worst. I like it actually.

 

Splendid. I'm in too!

 

Link for pre-order in the U.S., please?

 

Its even more ironic as that is the album that is most in need of a remix because of its strange bass-less sound.
And its my favourite GG Album.
As all other albums sound perfect to me and I don't have any Blue-Ray drives I will pass this.
I hope they don't go that Blue-Ray route with the remaining Tull-Boxes.

 

Correct, The Missing Piece is where Gentle Giant moved to a more commercial sound. There next two albums after The Missing Piece were not progressive and very commercial! So 3rd worst right on the money brimuchmuze.

 

With blu-ray players being as cheap as they are I just don't understand why people still haven't upgraded.

 

An audiophile Blu-ray player isn't cheap or converter.

 

New format upgrade burnout? I picked up a cheap one, but held off for years as the benefits of blu-Ray over DVDs meant little to me (still do) as I have been perfectly happy with audio and visual resolution available on DVDs. Also I can rip dvd content direct to my computer which I cant do easily with my blu-Ray player. And finally I assumed blu-Ray was a temporary format that could be skipped over in favor of the next big thing (digital streaming presumably). That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

 

Well, I don't live on an audiophile budget. That stuff isn't even a consideration for me.

 

My stereo rack has no room for another component!

Already have a SACD player, DVD-A player, creek amp, and turntable filling the space. That should be good enough!

 

This is disappointing. Seems like these songs will 'stand out' when compared to the other remixed stereo tracks. Any speculations Plan9 of how the multis for these went missing? Were all avenues exhausted?!
Still looking forward to the flat transfer!

 

I don't think the un-remixed tracks will stand out too much as we took great care to match the original mix, but obviously they will be a little less clear and dynamic and will have a little hiss.

The release was reported to give more time to find the tapes. If we knew how the multis went missing we would be a little closer to finding them, but unfortunately... However things do turn up from time to time. Labels are constantly re-organising their archives in these days of reissues and mergers and buy-outs (which may be a part of the problem, come to think of it).

 

Still waiting for the day when Wilson receives control of everything related to In Absentia and Deadwing. And holding out hope for a remix of IA even though the Tonefloat vinyl sounds sublime. And at least the DVD-A sounds great with Deadwing too as opposed to the compressed CD, but all those unreleased tracks accompanying IA - bring it on I say! The thought of them both in 5.1 on Bluray is still something I'm anticipating should that day ever come.

 

When I talked with Steven about it, he said the albums were "stuck" with RoadRunner or something to that effect, holding out little hope for remixed reissues...

 

I'm also a big fan of tMP. Even side 1 has a couple of great songs on it (commercial or not). So I would love a remix. I'd bet this album is garnering little by little more love from the Giant heads. And the excellent work of Steve Wilson would give it a serious push too...

...Oh and another boost would be the inclusion as extra track of any decent recording of the completely re-written live version of "Winning", from the US/Canada spring tour of 1977!

 

Great news about his release, tempered by the missing multitracks - the lack of the first two tracks is particularly hard to bear. It's odd how the 3 missing tracks are the ones that feature in the live medley...

Will the three tracks for which the multis could not be found have upmixes?????

 

I am happy to see Octopus done, although I was hoping for In A Glass House (the version I currently own is an old victim of typical GG mastering errors). I guess lack of multi's may rule that out for the forseeable future.

 

I'd rather have them remix Civilian. Missing Piece just doesn't have any merit to me... safe for one song maybe.

this really amazes me. Why would RoadRunner make them stuck? People will buy these two. With gusto. They wouldn't lose money.

Thanks for the info on GG multis. Now I understand why it's been such a long time since Power and no other release. Fingers crossed that more will be found.

 

I'm in regardless, of course, but are they really not going to include the live Excerpts medley bonus track from the previous edition? I was kind of hoping I could toss that out once I upgraded.

 

I bought the Power and the Glory Blu-ray on the strength of Steven Wilson (I had never heard any Gentle Giant before) and I wasn't disappointed. A lovely rich recording, interesting sounds and lyrics. Nice visuals as well on the Blu-ray. I will definitely get this one.

 

I was exactly in the same boat. Although I did listen to a couple tracks off the ProgArchives many years ago, never did I get around to delving any further into their material. But of course, that all changed the moment I decided to pick up The Power and The Glory - and I too wasn't disappointed. Be looking forward to Three Friends and Acquiring the Taste, should they ever locate all the multi-track tapes going into the foreseeable future, but maybe In a Glass House oughta be next on the list.

 

From what I understand, Roadrunner is a subsidiary of Warner Music thus owning the Lava recordings as a whole. Apparently, WB isn't interested in reissuing IA and DW which sucks really. And I do agree, there would be a lot of money to be made here - they will certainly sell especially with lavish boxsets in mind. I won't hold my breath but I will keep my fingers crossed. A shame too given that it's been 10 years since Deadwing. Also curious too whether the tracklists are as Wilson originally intended what with the bonus material, EP's (Futile will likely be included too) etc. Take Collapse from the Futile EP download (not the CD) which was originally intended to open IA for instance... and I do wonder whether Revenant is intended to open Deadwing.

Anyway, this is another topic for another thread...