Question on encoding for iPod

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Chris Desjardin, Aug 29, 2015.

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  1. Chris Desjardin

    Chris Desjardin Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Ware, MA
    So I have decided to encode a bunch of new stuff for my iPod, wiping out the lossless 24 bit stuff I had on it. I listen in the car, and I doubt I can hear the difference in that environment, and, even if
    I could, I want to fit more songs on it. I have 160gb, so I should fit a lot.

    My question is what kind of file is best - constant bit rate or variable bit rate? I will be using DB Poweramp to rip the CD's to Apple Lossy (highest bit rate allowed).

    I also have some high-res stuff, like the Led Zeppelin material from the deluxe editions. My question is this - should I use the 24 bit files to encode to Apple lossy, or the CD's? Which would be the better source? Or does it not matter at all?
     
  2. BayouTiger

    BayouTiger Forum Resident

    Well if you're using Apple Lossy then I would go with 256AAC VBR. They'll sound great in the car.
     
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  3. supermd

    supermd Senior Member

    Location:
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    I also have a 160GB iPod. I used to put as hi-res a file as I could fit on my iPod, but I was running out of room quickly. I recently decided that 256 AAC (like @BayouTiger recommended above) is perfectly suited for my portable listening needs. They do sound perfectly fine in the car, which is where I do a lot of listening with my iPod.

    There is a setting you can put on your iPod while it is connected to iTunes that automatically converts your music as you drag it to your iPod. It does not touch the files in your library. So, if I dragged a 16/44.1 lossless file to my iPod, my iPod would get a 256 AAC file, while my iTunes library would still have the untouched lossless file with no duplication.
     
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  4. Gaslight

    Gaslight ⎧⚍⎫⚑

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    I would also use 256kbps VBR AAC as it's fairly transparent imo.

    As for the high-res stuff, I would use the best mastering as the source. Essentially whatever source sounds the best to you, use that one.
     
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  5. BayouTiger

    BayouTiger Forum Resident

    I might also note that if you're computer is pretty powerful, you may find the conversion pretty invisible as it some cases the PC can transcode the file a move the much smaller file across the iPod's USB2 connection faster than it can move the much larger file.
     
  6. Chris Desjardin

    Chris Desjardin Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Ware, MA
    Thanks, guys. I will try a test using the 24/96 Zep files vs. the CD versions. The CD's would be easier, but whatever sounds best.

    I assumed that the dither the record company used for the hi res to CD transfer would probably be better than what I have at home. Maybe not...
     
  7. Galley

    Galley Forum Resident

    Like supermd said, if the high-res (or lossy) files are already in your library, just use the convert-on-the-fly option.
     
  8. RingoStarr39

    RingoStarr39 Forum Resident

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    If you have 160 GB available to you, go with at least 320 AAC.
    But, with that much space, why not go with Apple Lossless instead?
     
  9. Chris Desjardin

    Chris Desjardin Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Ware, MA
    I used Apple Lossless when I had everything at 24/48. But I do a ton of driving, and it seems I am always wishing I had different stuff on there to listen to. I figure AAC will keep me entertained for a while...
     
  10. RingoStarr39

    RingoStarr39 Forum Resident

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    Baden, PA
    Like I said, if you have 160 GB, you can afford to continue to use Apple Lossless.
    When you use iTunes to rip CD's to ALAC it automatically adjusts the bit rate for each song to keep the file size small as possible while keeping sound quality.
     
  11. JeffMo

    JeffMo Format Agnostic

    Location:
    New England
    AAC is just fine for the car IMO.
     
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  12. Galley

    Galley Forum Resident

    The only drawback to converting on-the-fly is that syncing takes much longer.
     
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