Sorry if this has already been covered and I spaced it out. Sources report a 1/14/65 evening session with John Hammond Jr., Bruce Langhorne, John Sebastian, and John Boone that does not seem to be represented on the 18-disc set. Does anyone know anything about that and why it's not here? Supposedly tracks circulate from this session....?
According to this: http://www.bjorner.com/DSN00785 (65).htm#DSN00790 19. Love Minus Zero/No Limit 20. I'll Keep It With Mine 21. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue 22. Bob Dylan's 115th Dream 23. She Belongs To Me 24. Subterranean Homesick Blues
Exactly what I was looking at...as well as: If true, then why aren't they on the 18-CD box? If two tracks circulate, then it's not that the recordings never existed or were unusable. Maybe they were lost? Or are the circulating tracks not really from this session after all? Inquiring minds want to know!!
according to Bjorner, it is this version of I'll Keep It With Mine that appears on Biograph, but other sources (including Cutting Edge) list the 1-13-65 take as being the Biograph take. Oddly, Bjorner credits the 1-13-65 take as being on Pacifica Radio Archives IZ 1156 disc, even though that disc contains the Biograph version. It seems this night session is no longer available. Also, reading through Bjorner, he lists Bob Dylan's 115th Dream from Bringing It All Back Home as being entirely from the 14th. Cutting Edge lists the false start as being from the 13th, which was the solo session. Cutting Edge seems to make more sense.
Shalom & Erev tov...this is the take on No Direction Home, 29 July 1965. He returned to it again on 2 (5 takes) & 4 August (4 takes), the album version being an overdubbed take of 4 August. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ STEPHAN PICKERING / חפץ ח"ם בן אברהם Torah אלילה Yehu'di Apikores / Philologia Kabbalistica Speculativa Researcher לחיות זמן רב ולשגשג THE KABBALAH FRACTALS PROJECT
As stated in my post above, Bjorner seems to be misidentifying track 20, I'll Keep It With Mine. And 19 would be Love Minus Zero/No Limit. There is a b00tlegged but unreleased (for now) version of it, which is probably from the earlier session (listing 1 or 3).
This has to be one of the coolest pictures of Bob's ...Better: I'd say it's one of the coolest pictures ever taken in rock's universe.
I predict some folks trying to jump out from the Brooklyn Brdige after reading this, as The Cutting Edge promises "every note ever recorded from 1965-1966".
LARS? Not so sure. But I do think it's similar to "One of Us Must Know" — listen to the way Dylan's voice goes up, then down at the end of each verse; he reuses that stylistic trait in "One of Us", which is probably one of the (smaller) reasons why "She's Your Lover" ended up on the cutting room floor.
Could the session not even have been recorded? Bjorner lists titles but not the number of takes. Could the info be coming from (ultimately) anecdotal sources for that session? Here are his references for the whole entry Reference. Michael Krogsgaard: Bob Dylan: The Recording Sessions (Part 1). The Telegraph #52, Summer 1995, pp. 108–109. Clinton Heylin: Bob Dylan. The Recording Sessions [1960 – 1994]. St. Martin’s Press December 1995, pp. 33–36.
If the circulating tracks he identifies aren't from that session, then it's quite possible that no tape was rolling - that would explain a lack of studio logs.
http://www.punkhart.com/dylan/sessions-1.html (bold emphasis mine) Krogsgaard also rightly identifies I'll Keep It With Mine from Biograph as being from the 13th.
Though I bought the 18CD set, and may have been one of the earliest to order, I am no longer obsessed with having or hearing every take, or knowing what is missing or previously circulating. Does that make sense? As much as I loved Dylan's music of the 1965-66 time since it's first release (I still have my mono copies bought the week they came out), I am moved even more so by certain recordings of recent years (Cross the Green Mountain; Red River Shore; Workingman's Blues). I really do think that getting to hear Dylan's private home tapes of recent decades would be a most profound experience
Shalom & Erev tov...through the courtesy of a friend of mine who was IBM computer technician for 40 years, and has fabulous equipment, I listened to a wonderfully enhanced 'Lunatic Princess' tonight, several times...and this is my transcription (1:10): Why should you have to be so frantic, you always wanted to live in the past. Now are you sure to be so Atlantic [sic] you finally got your wish at last. You used to be oh so modest, with your arm around your cigarette machine. Now you're lost and all I see is All you got is your two dollar bill and your hat full of gasoline [tape is unintelligible] After all things could be much worse ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ STEPHAN PICKERING / חפץ ח"ם בן אברהם Torah אלילה Yehu'di Apikores / Philologia Kabbalistica Speculativa Researcher לחיות זמן רב ולשגשג THE KABBALAH FRACTALS PROJECT
I feel like pre-ordering the 6-disc but when I'm about to I chicken out because I feel like I need the 18 disc set! Am I crazy?! I need help.
Are you referring to the 6-CD set, the "take 5 remake" on disc 2 track 17? It is a new outtake, previously unheard, from the August 2 session. Don't know whether it's Dylan with band or by himself. The track time is 10:50 (the version on No Direction Home, take 1 from July 29, was 11:44). The odd thing is, that version is not on the 2-CD set - that has the piano demo and "take 1, alternate take" from August 4, which is 11:16. Now here's the mystery: Desolation Row had two take ones that day, the first one a "rehearsal" which broke down. The released version on Highway 61 (take 5) was 11:21. There were also guitar overdub takes that day; so it seems to me that the version picked for the 2-CD set is basically going to be extremely close to the Highway 61 version, just without the guitar overdub. This is also one of the few instances where the previously released outtake wasn't repeated on the 6-CD set, unless something's been mislabeled.
I also wondered about that mystery session. Krogsgaard seems to be the basic source of info here, and his list is in turn based on unknown sources, with nothing actually circulating, no tape available, and no session sheets. I believe his song list is inaccurate: notice that it exactly repeats the first five songs Dylan played on 1/13, in the same order! I suspect no one knows what songs they played. So it's possible nothing actually got recorded. That seems odd, but Tom Wilson was noticeably tighter with tape than Bob Johnston was, so perhaps the group rehearsals didn't get to any takes he considered worth recording. The new set also gives us another mystery: at the end of Dylan's solo session on 1/13, there's a remake of Outlaw Blues listed as "electric" (it's also on the 6-CD set). We probably won't know until release what musicians were involved, or if it's mislabelled. (It did strike me as strange that Dylan would do "remakes" of Love Minus Zero and She Belongs To Me at the end of the 1/13 session, but possibly other musicians had arrived - especially since She Belongs To Me seems to be the take with Langhorne that got released on BS7.)
Yes, that falling vocal thing he does at the end of each verse is very similar to 'One Of Us Must Know,' I've always noticed that.
A very, very slim possibility....might it have been an unused overdub session (onto solo Dylan tracks, but without Bob in attendance), similar to what Wilson had already done with older Dylan tracks one month previously?
