What is your favorite WAR movie? Why?

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  1. PhilBorder

    PhilBorder Senior Member

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    I think John Ford's "They Were Expendable" explores many of the moral and psychological issues more (or at least as much as) eloquently and movingly then many movies previously mentioned. It's a fairly subtle film by Ford's standards, and greatly underrated in his canon. Frankly I find it less 'mythological' than "The Searches" and all the better for it. Without giving too much away (the title is pretty telling, but the "They' isn't who you think and upon reflection, you'll recognize other 'expendables'), the film's attributes includes Robert Montgomery's powerfully reserved performance, the searing depiction of romantic relationships begun and lost in the chaos of war, soldiers who diligently and resourcefully worked 'on the sidelines' and knew better than their commanders what really needed to be done, John Wayne deepening the persona he would become known for, all filmed with the sense of authenticity that seems a half step away from a documentary (which, of course, Ford also produced during WWII), and based on a true story. I believe Ford was injured toward the end of production and asked Montgomery to complete directing the film.

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  2. Rachael Bee

    Rachael Bee Miembra muy loca

    I just finished watching They Were Expendable. It's a good depiction of the dark, early days of the war. I've been on a PT boat. When I was a kid we went on vacation to New England. In New Hampshire, we went to Lake Winnipesaukee. Back then, they sold rides on the U.S. Mail delivery boat that serviced the many islands. It was a PT Boat. We just putted around at 10-15 MPH.....no exciting torpedo runs.
     
  3. OnTheRoad

    OnTheRoad Not of this world

    I've seen a lot of my favorites listed...

    But has anyone mentioned

    Shenandoah (Civil War flick)

    Damn...it's a tearjerker !
     
  4. Lucidae

    Lucidae AAD

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    One of my favorites is The Last Samurai. The soundtrack alone makes it worthwhile.
     
  5. Muzyck

    Muzyck Pardon my scruffy hospitality

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    The Bridge On the River Kwai
    The Great Escape
     
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  6. trem two

    trem two Forum Resident

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    Lots of greats mentioned, but one overlooked is:

    The Battle of Algiers.

    Interesting "newsreel/neorealism" approach using participants etc.
    Significant and contemporary issues (Terrorism, Torture, Occupation, Civilian casualties/collateral damage, etc) keeping it relevant.
    Seems to fit more the current US experience of war than older greats (All Quite, Ryan,).
     
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  7. EdgardV

    EdgardV ®

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    Yes those are two of my top favorites, along with:

    1. Enemy At The Gates | 2001 • Jude Law, Ed Harris, Joseph Fiennes, Ron Pearlman; directed by Jean-Jacques Annaud.
    2. Saving Private Ryan | 1998 • Tom Hanks, Matt Damon; directed by Steven Spielberg.
    3. Kelly's Heroes | 1970 • Clint Eastwood, Donald Sutherland, Telly Savalas, Don Rickles, Caroll O'Conner; directed by Brian G. Hutton.
    4. The Great Escape | 1963 • Steve McQueen, James Garner, Richard Attenborough, Charles Bronson, Donald Pleasence; directed by James Sturges.
    5. The Bridge On the River Kwai | 1957 • William Holden, Alec Guiness; directed by David Lean.
    6. Stalag 17 | 1953 • William Holden, Otto Preminger, Peter Graves, Robert Strauss; directed by Billy Wilder.
     
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  8. george nadara

    george nadara Forum Resident

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    Patton... because my dad's 1st cousin served in North Africa under Patton, and was captured in Tunisia and taken to a P.O.W. camp near Berlin
     
  9. Maseman66

    Maseman66 Forum Resident

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    Sorry if it's been mentioned, but anyone see the French film, "Joyeux Noel"? I thought it was great. Here's a synopsis via IMDB:

    In 1914, World War I, the bloodiest war ever at that time in human history, was well under way. However on Christmas Eve, numerous sections of the Western Front called an informal, and unauthorized, truce where the various front-line soldiers of the conflict peacefully met each other in No Man's Land to share a precious pause in the carnage with a fleeting brotherhood. This film dramatizes one such section as the French, Scottish and German sides partake in the unique event, even though they are aware that their superiors will not tolerate its occurrence.
     
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  10. Dude111

    Dude111 An Awesome Dude

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    The great escape!!
     
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  11. davenav

    davenav High Plains Grifter

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    Bingo!

    A very poetic, and moving war picture.
     
  12. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Yeah! Be watching part 2 soon of GODs and Generals ( great title) good stuff indeed, though I think I prefer Gettysburg. Shame there was no part 3.Ie; the aftermath, what happened after the civil war.
     
  13. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    All steller, cept the oddball one.:)
    Substitute with Catch 22.
     
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  14. Yovra

    Yovra Collector of Beatles Threads

    Cross Of Iron
     
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  15. Vidiot

    Vidiot Now in 4K HDR!

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    Patton was the first one I thought of, but it's interesting that George C. Scott thought it was an anti-war film showing an narcissistic, egotistical general who was out of control. Instead, the film wound up inspiring Nixon to step up the war in Vietnam, which is something for which Scott (very left-wing in his politics) was mortified to the end of his days.

    I think I like the "caper" films more than any other war films, particularly Kelly's Heroes and movies like that. Great Escape was another one, if you buy that the escape was the caper.
     
  16. Scott222C

    Scott222C Loner, Rebel & Family Man

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    Because it shows both sides ... and there always are more sides than one ....
     
  17. Jupiter

    Jupiter Forum Resident

    Paths of Glory.

    What is war?
     
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  18. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    Gettysburg and Gods and Generals are based largely on historical novels by Michael Shaara and his son. The third part of the trilogy, The Last Full Measure dealt with Lee's surrender at Appomattox and was supposed to be the final film, but financier Ted Turner lost every penny he spent on Gods and Generals so he told screen writer-director-producer Ronald F. Maxwell that there wouldn't be another one. A lot of people were disappointed; Maxwell's stock company loves working with him and the re-enactor regiments are devoted to him. Maxwell went up to Canada to shoot Copperhead, a low-budget independent Civil War drama that didn't get much of a release. Everyone who likes Maxwell's epics should check it out on DVD and blu-ray. It's fair to say, given his single-minded devotion to historical films about America, that Maxwell's career is over. Finished. The kids running Hollywood hate that kind of film and shun that kind of filmmaker. If you want to make that kind of film you have to find independent money, somebody who needs a write-off.

    Maxwell really fell in love with the language he was reading in the diaries and letters and military reports while preparing Gods and Generals, and as a result, the film is too married to the written word to engage a general audience. There are no short sentences. Every dialog is a speech. Personally, I love it, and the film. It's as eloquent as Shakespeare -- who's never been a big money maker, either.

    Robert Duvall is excellent in Gods and Generals, but Martin Sheen is brilliant in Gettysburg. Sheen brings a depth and subtext to the character that is precisely right but not on the page. In comparison, Duvall delivers a straightforward performance off the page; no more, no less. I do wish he'd had the chance to surrender in the third film, but alas.

    Insofar as Civil War films go, I also like John Huston's newsreel you-are-there approach to The Red Badge of Courage (1951), even though 30 minutes of footage was cut by the studio.

    Edward Zwick's Glory (1989) is a great Civil War film.
     
  19. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Thanks for the info.
    Copperhead " I've yet see.
    But, Glory is excellent.
     
  20. Sneaky Pete

    Sneaky Pete Flat the 5 and That’s No Jive

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    This.
     
  21. Rachael Bee

    Rachael Bee Miembra muy loca

    I'm gonna see Copperhead, soon.
     
  22. The Panda

    The Panda Forum Mutant

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    The Big Red One--Lee Marvin really opens this one up
    Apocalypse Now--liked the book, but the narration here is fantastic
    Glory
    Where Eagles Dare--it's seemingly on in reruns every other month, but I always stop and watch.
     
  23. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    Von Ryan's Express...fav since I was a kid. the last scene with Sinatra really grabbed me back then...
     
  24. DLD

    DLD Senior Member

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    In {more or less} order

    Saving Private Ryan
    We Were Soldiers
    City of Life and Death (Let's not forget that the Japanese massacred Chinese at an astronomical rate)
    Blackhawk Down
    Apocalypse Now
    Zero Dark Thirty
    Hurt Locker
    Fury
    Deer Hunter
    Das Boot
    Lost Mohicans
    Platoon
    Patton (maybe it was the date with the luvly Ms. Janice Harper 44 or so years ago that gets this one of the list???)
    American Sniper
    Glory
    Gallipoli
    That's enuf for now. So many wars, so little time.
     
  25. MaltairX

    MaltairX Well-Known Member

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    I just watched it. The acting really worked for me. I highly recommend it, but would also delete a few scenes as they go a little over the top but don't ruin an otherwise fine and moving film.
    There was also a song about this occurrence:
    "Christmas in the Trenches"


    (the volume is a bit low on that video, perhaps there is a better version uploaded)
     
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