Reel-to-reel tape is the new vinyl

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Brian Gupton, Oct 8, 2015.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Schwinnparamount

    Schwinnparamount Forum Resident

    I dunno why everyone is saying a RtoR deck is so expensive. I found this one on Amazon for only $22
     
    vinyl13 and Mister Charlie like this.
  2. Six String

    Six String Senior Member

    Yeah, I did the same thing. My cassettes of my cds sounded better in my car than a similarly priced cd player that replaced it later on. I missed that tape deck for the car. There was no worry of someone wanting it because everyone wanted cd players so tape decks were no longer hot property.
     
  3. Six String

    Six String Senior Member

    So tapes on Ebay are around $80 for a 10.5 reel. Is that typical?
     
    Last edited: Nov 25, 2015
  4. Wes H

    Wes H Forum Resident

    Location:
    Virginia
    No. Crazy overpriced. Typical Ebay...
     
    Mister Charlie likes this.
  5. Solitaire1

    Solitaire1 Carpenters Fan

    Something that came to mind after reading the above:

    Another reason for using cassettes in the car: Damaging a cassette in my car (that only costs about $1 and can be recreated at home by re-recording it from my CDs) is better than damaging an original CD (that costs $10-$15) in my car. Plus, a car is not an optimal environment for listening to music so cassette can be fine in that environment.
     
  6. MrRom92

    MrRom92 Forum Supermodel

    Location:
    Long Island, NY
    That's about $10-20 over MSRP for a new loaded metal reel, even cheaper if just getting the pancake.
     
  7. russk

    russk Forum Resident

    Location:
    Syracuse NY
    I never understood people that wanted all the hassle of reel to reel for recording. As you mentioned, I have always thought the point of the format was so you could get near master quality recordings to use in the home. Alas they are way to delicate for mem I remember destroying one of my dad's symphony tapes in the early 80ss but god he really loved his old Tandburg Reel to Reel deck. The last time I heard it was about 10 years ago and it sounded pretty decent but by then I think it was in need of a good servicing.

    Anyone who has one for recodings share why they like them for that use?
     
  8. Six String

    Six String Senior Member

    I thought that sounded crazy but then I haven't bought a reel of tape since the 70s and that was Navy PX prices.
     
    MrRom92 likes this.
  9. Six String

    Six String Senior Member

    I stopped using my reel to reel when I bought a cassette deck with better specs than the reel to reel. From a sound perspective it no longer made sense. Now if you played and recorded at 15 ips with 10.5 inch reels then you'd have something.
     
  10. Six String

    Six String Senior Member

    Excellent point. Not only that but high quality tapes not only sounded better and were cheaper than pre-recorded tapes, they were built better so I had few failures in my experience.
     
  11. rbbert

    rbbert Forum Resident

    Location:
    Reno, NV, USA
    The best cassettes never sounded as good as a high quality R2R 1/4-track 7.5 ips, whatever the specs tried to say, and I used the best Naks.
     
    The FRiNgE and davmar77 like this.
  12. Francisx

    Francisx Forum Resident

    I have an Akai 4000 Ds MKII and an Akai 4000 GTX....both were purchased sometime late 73-76. Both sound great! I was able about 1o years ago to get some great deals on pre-recorded AMPEX- Beatles and Frank Sinatra RTR. They sound great through my Sonos
    Connect and my B&W speakers.
     
    Gramps Tom likes this.
  13. The FRiNgE

    The FRiNgE Forum Resident

    Yes, I have always enjoyed the pre-recorded RtR's. The earlier tapes are the best sounding, once state of the art and still a valid top of the line high fidelity source.
     
    Gramps Tom likes this.
  14. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

    Location:
    CT, USA
    In the good old days, a 10 1/2" reel might run you somewhere between $35-40 ...
     
    Gramps Tom and The FRiNgE like this.
  15. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

    Location:
    CT, USA
    I remember those good old days when I could get 7 1/2" TDK or Maxell reels for $10-12 each. I still have a good number of them in shrinkwrap ...
     
    Gramps Tom likes this.
  16. Sal1950

    Sal1950 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Central FL
    LOL, I sitting here looking at my 1963 Allied Electronics catalog. A 10" reel of Scotch's best 150 1 mil 3600 ft reel is $9.41 on aluminum 3" hole reel. WOOT. You don't want to know the prices on R2R recorders.
    Lord how I remember those days and enjoy looking back thru this catalog. I lived in Chicago about a 15 minute ride from the BIG store on Western Ave. About once a month I'd get my dad to take me there to shop and druel over all the tech of the day. I built a bunch of kits from there and took my Novice Amature Radio license course and test at that store. Also right across the street was Olson Radio, a much smaller version of Allied with their own line of tech goodies, etc. Thank God my pop was a patient man as I'd make a whole day of my Radio Store excursions. Thanks Dad, I'll always remember our time together there.
     
    Wes H, empirelvr and Gramps Tom like this.
  17. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

    Location:
    CT, USA
    I bought 10 of these TDK EE 7 1/2" reels in the mid 80's. Half of them are still in shrinkwrap ...

    Looking at these tapes bring back some wonderful memories.

    [​IMG]
     
    2xUeL and Wes H like this.
  18. MrRom92

    MrRom92 Forum Supermodel

    Location:
    Long Island, NY
    Keep in mind that $9.41 in 1963 adjusted for inflation is nearly $73 now. Not to mention 150 was not even their best formulation at the time. Economies of scale should be taken into account too, they were manufacturing a quantity not only to meet the demands of professionals but for a healthy consumer market as well.


    We really don't have it so bad in 2016.
     
  19. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

    Location:
    CT, USA
    I think the large price increase has more to do with the current lousy economy of scale, i.e. low demand. There is no doubt the manufacturing process should have been much improved relative to the early 60's, not to mention the lower raw material costs ...
     
    Chooke likes this.
  20. kwadguy

    kwadguy Senior Member

    Location:
    Cambridge, MA
    That's a Columbia Record club issue. Those are almost all quite dire sounding. The bottom of the barrel in pre-reccorded tape (although some are fairly scarce/rare). High speed dubs from dubious sub-masters.
     
    HiFi Guy 008 likes this.
  21. MrRom92

    MrRom92 Forum Supermodel

    Location:
    Long Island, NY
    Prices are pretty much the same, for premium grade tape that blows any vintage formulation away. On a new sturdy metal reel (much better than what 3M was supplying in 63) and a heavy duty plastic tape care box. And prices were actually quite a bit lower only a couple of years ago - as you mentioned, due to economy of scale. But even at today's "identical" price, we're getting much more value for the money.
     
  22. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

    Location:
    CT, USA
    I wish I had bought the GX-747 instead of the GX-77. Both decks accept EE tapes but the GX-77 only handles 7 1/2" reels ...

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
    The FRiNgE likes this.
  23. Pinknik

    Pinknik Senior Member

    Here's a story about a label that makes you a tape copy straight from a digital multi-track. Essentially doing a new mix for each copy. Automated, I'm sure, but imagine the trouble being gone to. Enjoy the comment section for overwrought bellyaching about semantics.

    Analogy Records Sells Only Master Tapes ยป
     
    charlie W likes this.
  24. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

    Location:
    CT, USA
    I have been listening to classical music pretty much exclusively since the late 80's. All my pre-recorded classical reels do not suffer from poor quality sub-masters even if the tapes were produced under license ...
     
  25. druboogie

    druboogie Maverick Stacker

    Location:
    New Jersey
    I'm just stealing master 2 track reels from protected archives, and buying a studer half inch reel. The reel experience wont get any better than that.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

molar-endocrine