Do you organize "spin-off" band albums with primary band albums?

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  1. altaeria

    altaeria Forum Resident Thread Starter

    How do you organize albums released by "spin-off" bands?
    Do you keep them with the primary band's stuff?
    And do you have any specific criteria for sorting?

    Keep in mind I am not talking about solo artist albums...
    just albums released by bastardized :) offshoot bands.

    Here are some example "spin-off" bands with albums:

    Arcadia (Duran Duran)
    Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe (Yes)
    Talk Show (Stone Temple Pilots)
    3 (Emerson Lake & Palmer)
    Bad English (Journey)
    The Long Hello (Van Der Graaf Generator)

    Let me know what you prefer to do.
    I mix them in with the primary band albums.

    Also-- Let's list other examples.
    I think even the Rolling Stones had some odd offshoot.
    It was called something like "Jamming With Edward"(??)
     
  2. altaeria

    altaeria Forum Resident Thread Starter

    I suppose the original Buckingham Nicks album would qualify for me... and I would comfortably sort it among the Fleetwood Mac albums.
     
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  3. Gaslight

    Gaslight ⎧⚍⎫⚑

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    Alphabetically.
     
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  4. sons of nothing

    sons of nothing Forum Resident

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    No, cause they're different bands.
     
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  5. Synthfreek

    Synthfreek I’m a ray of sunshine & bastion of positivity

    There's no way for me to strictly alphabetize and remember what every single alias someone like Richard H. Kirk or Uwe Schmidt uses.
     
  6. JohnnyQuest

    JohnnyQuest Forum Resident

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    Yes. That's why I have "6 Feet Deep" by the Gravediggaz in the Wu-Tang section.
     
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  7. Laibach

    Laibach Forum Resident

    Yes, this is the method I use for my CDs, as an example I keep all of these together, sharing two contiguous shelves:
    R.E.M., Baseball Project, The Minus 5, The Young Fresh Fellows, Tired Pony, Steve Wynn..
     
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  8. The7thStranger

    The7thStranger Part of the Rhythm Nation

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    It depends. If they were one-off projects very closely linked to the bands, yes. Arcadia, simply put, is just a Duran Duran album without Andy and John. The Power Station, however, is not.
     
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  9. Maurice

    Maurice Senior Member

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    Honestly, the only times I file offshoot bands and artists separately are when I like the offshoot band as much as I like the originating band/artist. So, while Arcadia and Recoil are filed separately from Duran Duran and Depeche Mode respectively, I file Jerry Harrison and The Heads alongside Talking Heads, NPG, and Mayte alongside Prince, Zwan alongside Smashing Pumpkins and Passengers alongside U2.
    I offer no excuses.:shrug:
     
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  10. altaeria

    altaeria Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Oddly enough, I wouldn't be surprised if Robert Palmer fans sorted Power Station among HIS albums.
     
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  11. The7thStranger

    The7thStranger Part of the Rhythm Nation

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    Was he the brainchild? I don't remember. I didn't like The Power Station all that much.
     
  12. Radio KTmS

    Radio KTmS i am a dj, i am what i play

    i jam 'the idiot' and 'lust for life' into my bowie 'berlin' playlist...
    works pretty well for me.
     
  13. altaeria

    altaeria Forum Resident Thread Starter

    If the offshoot band has any longevity and/or establishes its own identity, then I would likely keep that separate.

    Bowie fans-- what about Tin Machine?
     
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  14. mr.datsun

    mr.datsun Incompletist

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    Sound complicated, the links between them probably too tenuous.

    Keeping it simple:

    Rock, pop et al. A-Z

    Classical and modern, avant-garde A-Z
     
  15. mr.datsun

    mr.datsun Incompletist

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    Are aliases, spin-offs?
     
  16. altaeria

    altaeria Forum Resident Thread Starter

    What was that Temple of the Dog album?
    Didn't that involve half Pearl Jam (and maybe Soundgarden)?
     
  17. The7thStranger

    The7thStranger Part of the Rhythm Nation

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    Chris Gaines deserves his own section, Mr. Datsun.
     
  18. Sytze

    Sytze Senior Member

    I do. Spin-off bands get filed with the 'mothership'. The Cross with Queen, Matching Mole with Soft Machine, Mallard with Beefheart and so on.
     
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  19. altaeria

    altaeria Forum Resident Thread Starter

    I suppose so, in this context.

    Coincidentally, I would file Alias and Sheriff together.
     
  20. intv7

    intv7 Senior Member

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    Depends on the band and the situation. I often file solo albums and related bands at the end of that artist -- though even doing that is on a case-by-case basis.

    On rare occasions, those offshoot bands end up filed chronologically within that artist's section. Case in point, I file the Difford & Tilbrook album in the main Squeeze section, between Sweets From a Stranger and Cosi Fan Tutti Fruitti.
     
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  21. JL6161

    JL6161 Forum Resident

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    The two slots right between Glass Spider Live and Black Tie White Noise.

    Overall, though, I decide on a case-by-case basis. For instance, all things including Will Oldham are under Oldham (chronologically) because, please, how the hell would I find any of them if they were scattered across the Bs, Ps, Os, Ms, Ss, etc.? His participation is the common factor and my reason for owning them, so they should all be together.

    If a member of an ongoing band does a solo album or a side project as a one-off, I'll tend to stick those with the band; if the solo/side thing becomes an ongoing endeavor or involves multiple albums (Roger Daltrey, Handsome Furs), involves members of two ongoing bands with established careers (FFS), or if the member leaves the band or the band ends (Dave Davies, Peter Gabriel), then they get filed separately.
     
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  22. SJP

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    My organizing system would drive many crazy, including myself sometimes. Everything is based on genre and/or geography. No alpha in sight, not even within these categories.

    That said, all offshoots/solo projects are filed next to the original band, or at least close to it.

    Example.

    Original band, no-man.

    Almost concurrent but eclipsing in stature, Porcupine Tree.

    (I believe the first official release(s) were by no-man but it is close when you look at the early SW cassettes. My recollection of the no-man documentary also cites PT coming a bit later in the timeline.)

    Offshoots & collaborations: Altamont, Bass Communion, I.E.M., Blackfield, Continuum, Storm Corrosion

    Steven Wilson solo

    But wait, you have to wedge in some Tim Bowness (with & without Peter Chilvers), Samuel Smiles, Henry Fool, A Marble Calm, Slow Electric, Memories of Machines.

    Now toss in some other members...Gavin Harrison (with & without 05Ric), Ex-Wise Heads.

    And loosely related collaborative efforts: Cipher, Darkroom

    Guest appearances? nosound, OSI, etc.

    Seems a good place to add Adam Holzman (Deform Variations) and the latest entry, The Mute Gods (Nick Beggs, has more in common musically with this branch than the Kajagoogoo one). Even John Wesley is in this ballpark.

    Don't get me started on the Japan family tree. That's where the Richard Barbieri stuff resides (except for his material with Steve Hogarth which are near Marillion).

    Where does it end??? I hope it never does.
     
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  23. altaeria

    altaeria Forum Resident Thread Starter

    To be even more ridiculously OCD about these things...
    I actually sort ALL my Prog Rock bands stuff together
    in CHRONOLOGICAL order... because for Prog
    my mood is usually looking for the sound of a timeframe.
    hmm 1974 or 2004 today?
     
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  24. sandmountainslim1

    sandmountainslim1 Vicar Of Fonz

    Under this system would Jefferson Starship, Hot Tuna and Starship be put with Jefferson Airplane?
     
  25. Khamakhazee

    Khamakhazee Forum Resident

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    Not really but what I will do is simplify some artists. An example would be Tom Petty. I will put Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers under Tom Petty but to make things complicated I will still correctly alpha-size other albums like BB King and Eric Clapton but that too is a judgement call based on if I know both artists well enough. If not I just use one headliner.
     
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