Phoenix Engineering Falcon PSU Turntable Speed Controller

I contacted Phoenix Engineering through the www.phoenix-engr.com Contact Page letting them know we are interested in a Group Buy, along with the link to this thread. Hopefully, they will join in on the conversation shortly.

 

Actually there is a difference. If you use the PSU only, the platter will have excellent short term speed stability, but can be prone to long term drift as the table warms up. The motor maintains constant and very accurate speed, but the platter will slowly drift in speed. Piano notes will be steady but the pitch may change slightly at an inaudible rate as the speed slowly drifts. This is due to the bearing and belt changing as the table warms up. Most people would not notice the change unless you correct it after it has drifted.

With the tachometer feedback, the platter will have excellent short term stability as well as long term speed accuracy.

The speed of the platter can also be affected by moving the motor assembly, changing position of the belt on the motor pulley or platter and belt diameter. The feedback from the RR tach will correct for any of these changes.

 

Thanks for the heads up Dave, I don't normally monitor this site as there was very little activity after the initial thread.

Unfortunately we do not sell direct, only through our dealer network. You can contact the dealers listed on our website and see if any of them would offer a qty discount.

 

Now that makes perfect sense. Thank you. I will probably start off with the Falcon on its only. And succumb to the irresistible pull of the Roadrunner in another year or so!

 

I'd be interested in participating in a group buy if you are able to find a dealer willing to provide one.

 

It doesn't appear that their dealer page works on Apple devices. I can't past the first two California dealers (A/V Solutions and Brooks Berdan LTD). I tried on my iPad and iPhone. I gave up trying.

 

It's frustrating when you can't pull up a site on a phone or tablet. Here's the list but it would probably be best to see how much interest there is in a group buy before putting too much effort into it.

Authorized Dealers
California

A / V Solutions

7450 Hillsdale Drive
Pleasanton CA 94588
(925) 425-0450
Electronics - A/v Solutions »

Brooks Berdan Ltd.

110 West Olive Avenue
Monrovia CA 91016
(626) 359-9131
Homepage - Brooks Berdan Ltd. »

GrooveTracer Products

300 Brokaw Road
Santa Clara , CA 95050
(408) 727-2610
groove tracer »

Upscale Audio Inc.

2504 Spring Terrace
Upland CA 91784
(909) 931-9686
http://www.upscaleaudio.com

Florida

Legend Audio

6454 NW 93rd Drive
Parkland FL 33067
(954) 816-3888
Legend Audio Video »

Let There Be Sound, LLC

Oswaldo Martinez/President
Weston FL 33326
(954) 465-5040
Home »

Indiana

AG Labs

8078 David Ct.
Avon, IN 46123
(317) 490-0005

Louisiana

Audiowood

5000 St. Claude Ave. #109
New Orleans LA 70117
(850) 272-4700
Audiowood : Turntables by Joel Scilley »

Montana

Bob's Devices Inc.

302 South 27th Street
Billings MT 59101
(910) 612-8666
Bob's Devices Inc. Step Up Transformers »

Nevada

LP Gear

4310 Cameron Street
Suite #5
Las Vegas NV 89103
(702) 419-0220
LP Gear,turntable stylus,turntable needle stylus,turntable belts,turntable cartridge needle stylus,phono cartridge,headphones,record cleaning machines,record to digital »

New York

Beauty of Sound

13 Country Lane
East Greenbush NY 12061
(518) 852-9183
Beauty Of Sound Home »

Living Acoustics

66 Clark Street #2R
Brooklyn NY 11021
(646) 625-8603
Living Acoustics ][ Home »

Oklahoma

Reference Analog

916 SW 40th Street
Moore OK 73160
(405) 795-3462
Home »

Pennsylvania

Audio & Video Expressions

804 Second Street Pike
South Hampton PA 18966
(215) 354-1500
Audio Video Expressions »

The Cable Company

125 Union Square
New Hope PA 18938
(215) 862-4870
High End audio, Video & speaker cables from The Cable company »

Quest for Sound

2307-R Bristol Pike
Bensalem PA 19020
(215) 953-9099
Quest For Sound - High End Audio »

Washington

Hawthorne Stereo

6303 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle WA 98115
(206) 522-9609
Hawthorne Stereo - A Pretty Nice Place »

Wisconsin

Hi-Fi Heaven

1549 Sixth Street
Green Bay WI 54304
(920) 494-8999
Hi-Fi Heaven »

International

IL Audio

Tchernichovsky 56/2
Kfar-Sava 44410
Israel
+972-545-912363
http://www.il-audio.com

Sense of Music

Kanaalweg 48
2313 DV
City Leiden
The Netherlands
+31-6539-30180
http://www.senseofmusic.nl

BelAudio

Calle Federica Montseny, 16
47140 Laguna De Duero
Spain
(+34) 983 10 14 81
http://www.belaudio.com

Scott Nangle Audio
38 Ashgillhead Road
Ashgill
Lanarkshire ML9 3AE
United Kingdom
+ 07934 617201
http://www.snvinyl.co.uk

 

Will this work on a new VPI Classic?

 

I got mine from A/V Solutions and had it drop shipped to my house, it came quick. Ordered over the phone.

Just email Phoenix Eng. and ask what version you need for your specific model Classic. I ended up opening my Scout's motor housing and checking that it was indeed a 5W motor but you might not need to do that.

 

Would this work with a U-Turn table?

 

Ask Phoenix. But if your U-Turn table uses a motor that simply plugs into the wall it should. If there are other electronics in the U-Turn (besides an On/Off switch) I don't know...

 

Honestly, no offense, but I wouldn't spend this type of money on upgrading a U-turn. I mean, the Falcon and Roadrunner together I think are more than the price of the U-turn. You're better off saving up for a different turntable, like a Rega P3 or something. Just take the U-turn for what it is, an affordable, beginner's table, that shouldn't be upgraded.

 

It appears Phoenix Engineering is out of business... no more website.

Phoenix Engineering LLC closing

 

It closed doors at least a couple of months ago--the owner retired and decided not to pass on his knowledge/products.

John K.

 

That's a bummer. I'm really impressed with the Phoenix Engineering products I bought.