Prince, R. I. P.

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by mr._mojo_filter, Apr 21, 2016.

  1. icirider

    icirider Forum Resident

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    It's a fact that the opioid specialist's son is the one that called 911. I'm as gutted as anyone about this but it's no reason to ignore the facts.
     
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  2. Dino

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    Earlier in the thread, there was discussion of Prince's height elevating footwear as a possible cause for his hip pain.

    I had an experience where a pair of shoes caused a serious amount of hip pain. They were nothing more than a pair of high top sneakers. I bought this pair of off brand sneakers because they were cheap, looked nice and were comfortable (or seemed to be). I wore them daily for a few weeks without incident.

    I started getting a slight pain in my hip where my leg bone went into the hip socket. The pain rapidly escalated until I was in intense pain whenever I had to walk more than a short distance. I had no idea what the cause for this was and decided I needed to see a doctor.

    Then I had a wild thought "Could it be these shoes?". It seemed highly unlikely to me but I went with my instincts and quit wearing those shoes. My hip problem decreased within a day and went away within less than a week. Later, I wondered if it was a coincidence and wore those shoes for a day. The pain started coming back. I tossed the shoes in the trash as soon as I got home from work that night and never had the problem again.

    This taught me a lesson that even ordinary seeming shoes can cause big problems, and not necessarily with the feet. (I never had another pair of shoes do anything like this, before or since.)

    For a celebrity like Prince, I can see how he would feel the need to appear taller. Especially with part of his image being sexy/attractive/lady's man...

    It seems like a shame if footwear is was what caused Prince's pain problems.
     
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  3. SweetTea

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    That part may be but the cocaine & Aids accusations are not.
     
  4. bartels76

    bartels76 Forum Hall Of Fame

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    Notice how TMZ has steered away from the AIDS allegations as well.
     
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  5. icirider

    icirider Forum Resident

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    I agree.
     
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  6. dee

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  7. Cubbiegirl

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    It seems that People and other sources are now running the same story .
    Also common sense tells me that a search warrant was not obtained for that pharmacy without probable cause.
    Addiction to opiates alone can cause all of the symptoms that we have heard of
    And some we have seen, such as weight loss etc . Addiction is a sad very lonely and isolating disease .
    I cant beleive i am taking this so hard ...
     
  8. TonyCzar

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    Yup. I can't spend an afternoon in shoes without cushioning.

    Prince should have gotten these, given his leisure-time basketball:


     
  9. PlushFieldHarpy

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    Well the brother in law said he had been awake for 150 hours. On top of an opioid addiction there's only a few ways that could be achieved, I would imagine.
    The speculation is harmless on top of what actually is known. I think there is a lot of mystery as to the personal demons that may have been driving Prince for a while. It's certainly nothing new with rock stars of Prince's caliber.
     
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  10. TonyCzar

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    AIDS is not an accusation.

    HTH.
     
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  11. TonyCzar

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    His BiL would probably benefit quite handsomely from a malpractice suit (justified or not).

    I'm not listening to any tales from "family". Completely obvious conflict of interest.
     
  12. ralphb

    ralphb "First they came for..."

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    Thank you.
     
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  13. SweetTea

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    True
    Poor choice of words & I apologize.
     
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  14. Cubbiegirl

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    Absolutely
    ... Its a syndrome caused by a virus which any of us could have been unknowingly exposed to in our lifetime.
    It also doesnt turn someone into a bad person if they have it .
    Im on the side of anything is possible ... We just dont know .
     
  15. Cubbiegirl

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    I look at that this way .., the only way he would know that is if he had been there with him .
    If that were the case then Prince would not have died alone in that elevator .
     
  16. Cubbiegirl

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  17. vertigone

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    Sorry this is off topic, but the Highway 61 cd was a covers CD that came with that issue of Uncut that he was carrying.

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  18. TonyCzar

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    One of his other city tricks: going around with a Greek-language newspaper.
     
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  19. Dino

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    From what I've read, opioid addiction has become an epidemic in the U.S. The lawmakers are clamping down on the ease of prescribing and filling prescriptions. I know a person in genuine medical need of them who is having to go through so many hoops recently. And her new opioid medication includes large doses of acetaminophen so she has possible liver damage to look forward to.

    It seems like the pendulum swings back and forth on pain medication. I remember listening to congress addressing prescription opioids back in the 1980s. I remember an often repeated back and forth: "What about those in genuine need, the terminally ill in intense pain for example?" - "We don't want to want to add to the terminally ill people's problems by also making them addicts.". It got pretty silly and partican. From what I read and heard, there were many people suffering needlessly due to the actions taken back then. After several years, this became an "issue" and things loosened up a bit.

    As time went on, it seemed to get so loose that pharmaceutical companies and some doctors were able to make easy profits from opioids without much restraint at all. I know a person that has been addicted for well over a decade (started recreationally) and she has pretty much ruined her life over this.

    Adding to all this, from what I've read, cheap and high purity heroin is flooding the country filling the void of access to pharmaceutical opioids for the addicted.

    I don't know what a good solution to the opioid addiction problem would be. It does not seem to be one extreme or the other, though.
     
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  20. StevenC

    StevenC SUEDE > Both Oasis AND Blur.

    other than The Smiths, Prince is my favorite artist of all time. He was a good guy who never had scandal around him (see MJ) and was dedicated to Animal Rights and helping downtrodden communities on his dime. With that said, it's pretty clear how he died regardless of what the tabloids claim. My guess is that it was a cocktail of percoset and cocaine. Percoset or Oxycontin alone, they're essentially high-powered paracetamol and I'm not sure an Uma Thurman save shot would help him at all. There were stories of him being awake 154 hours straight when they dropped him off on at Paisley Park on April 20 and his sister, who seems interested in protecting his legacy, announcing he had a dependency on cocaine. Hope it's not swept under the rug.
     
  21. djej

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    I wonder if Uncut will put together an Ultimate Music Guide for Prince like they have for McCartney, Radiohead, Bowie, etc.?
     
  22. Cubbiegirl

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    Agreed ... The requirements for dispensation have tightened up considerably
    Meanwhile we have those who are now dependant on them and not able to get them as readily anymore so they buy off the streets or buy street drugs
    Its a terrible dilemna and i certainly have no answers
     
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  23. TonyCzar

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    There's certainly a moral panic. When even the Star-Tribune has to throw in heroin ODs to get to 364 opioid deaths in 2015, you know they're trying too hard.

    Every country has its blind spots of fundamentalism, and here, the idea that someone's going to get a buzz without some penance (liver damage) thrown in for good measure just bothers people to no end.
     
  24. TSmithPage

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    Check out his left hand. He was obviously aware he was being photographed and not happy about it.
     
  25. sirwallacerock

    sirwallacerock The Gun Went Off In My Hand, Officer

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    And here I thought he was pointing at his shoes in order to deflect attention away from the shorts.
     
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