The Robots are coming for the Mastering Engineers now

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Brian Gupton, Oct 11, 2015.

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  1. Scott222C

    Scott222C Loner, Rebel & Family Man

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    I have bigger problems with human mastering engineers losing some or most of their hearing one way or another and still continue working for decades after the fact.
     
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  2. bru87tr

    bru87tr 80’s rule

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    Technology evolves for high resolution video, don't seem to have a problem making video better.

    Why do we still insist on making audio sound worse ? Makes no sense when it should sound better than ever.

    The ears don't like loud and unpleasant, would people go back to 480 lines of resolution ?

    Makes my mind explode.
     
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  3. testikoff

    testikoff Seasoned n00b

    What does mastering have to do with making a recording "louder"? It's goal has to be the best possible presentation of the final mix on a consumer medium. Robots are not required, but the technique of making a decent digital master from a well-made final digital mixdown is indeed not complex & can be performed by almost anyone with common sense & some experience with audio software tools...
     
  4. gingerly

    gingerly Change Returns Success

    I've actually tried this on a few of my mixes, and you know... it CAN and often DOES improve them - IF you play with the settings, and you know what you are listening for. I certainly didn't like everything I heard, however. It's somewhat configurable, so don't have to go for the brick-wall setting. You can try it for free. I haven't spent any money with them, but to dismiss it out right without a free test drive is just silly. It could be a great solution for demos for young bands, etc. that aren't going to have the money to spend on bespoke treatment.
     
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  5. RoyalScam

    RoyalScam Luckless Pedestrian

  6. namretsam

    namretsam Senior Member

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    The robots came for the mastering process a long time ago. No one will be able to earn a living at that trade in less than 10 years.
     
  7. Ash76

    Ash76 Wait actually yeah no

    If that's what people think mastering is, it sure helps explain the race to the bottom in the loudness wars.
     
  8. motownboy

    motownboy Senior Member

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    I think the "purpose" of this automated mastering is to provide a cost effective alternative to the artists who can't afford a proper mastering service.
     
  9. motownboy

    motownboy Senior Member

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    We have a new Bob Ludwig here...
     
  10. testikoff

    testikoff Seasoned n00b

    At times I feel like I could do a better job... :D
     
  11. tim185

    tim185 Forum Resident

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    What a appalling lack of understanding you possess regarding mastering. Enjoy the ignorance lol.
     
  12. testikoff

    testikoff Seasoned n00b

    Will do. The music industry can forget about me buying their robot- (or human-) mastered products, scoring low on dynamics & high on added distortions. ;)
     
  13. motownboy

    motownboy Senior Member

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    By all means, go out and master some music, get about 30+ years of album credits, recognition from your peers, a Grammy or two, innovate to the changes in technology, write a book or two, and tell us how you did it all by following three or four simple steps....:wave:
     
  14. testikoff

    testikoff Seasoned n00b

    What's all that worth when the final product gets butchered?..
     
  15. motownboy

    motownboy Senior Member

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    No, I was referring to your "expertise" on mastering...
     
  16. testikoff

    testikoff Seasoned n00b

    No expertise, but no butchered products either... :)
     
  17. motownboy

    motownboy Senior Member

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    Of course, we knew you had nothing to offer... :D
     
  18. The fact the writer said that the purpose of mastering is to make music louder revealed that a) the writer doesn't know what he is talking about and b) that the product he is evangelizing is some sort of limiting software. No thank you!
     
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  19. llannigan

    llannigan Member

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    I'm trying out one of my tracks on this right now. I usually do this myself, and I'm not pro, but I want to compare and see how it ends up. Considering it takes me a few days to get what I want through Ozone, this should be interesting.
     
  20. Drew

    Drew Senior Member

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    I thought there was a point at the advent of digital audio where some of the know it alls in the business said mastering engineers would become unnecessary. Just connect the tape player to the analog to digital converter and hit play and soon you'll have some bits to put on an optical disc.

    Thank goodness that never happened.
     
  21. steveharris

    steveharris Senior Member

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    :hide:The thread title suggests Oh No! The Gorts are rising up and revolting against our host AHh!:yikes:
     
  22. BayouTiger

    BayouTiger Forum Resident

    "has used it on projects such as a Paris Hilton remix, while Snoop Dogg’s Doggy Style Records has been using it too."

    That's it! Sign me up!!! All my formerly prized old school media will be at the local Goodwill tomorrow!!!!!



    Maybe we need an "Mastering Engineer's Lives Matter" movement. We could march on Warner Brothers!
     
  23. Carl Swanson

    Carl Swanson Senior Member

    Not here, methinks.
     
  24. Carl Swanson

    Carl Swanson Senior Member

    Never underestimate the power of mobs of the unemployed with torches and pitchforks.
     
  25. Carl Swanson

    Carl Swanson Senior Member

    That may indeed be a problem . . . but a bigger problem?
     
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