I've had enough of vinyl especially 'vinyls'. Can we go back to records?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Classicrock, Aug 26, 2016.

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  1. Carl Swanson

    Carl Swanson Senior Member

    Cuts it for me, and that's all that matters . . . to me. Yes, I grew up in the 50s and 60s; they were not always called "records." Some called them albums (or ablums,) some called them LPs, some called them records, some called them sides.
     
  2. dogpile

    dogpile Generation X record spinner.

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    Sam The Vinyl Man would have sounded really, really dumb

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  3. fmfxray373

    fmfxray373 Capitol LPs in the 70s were pretty good.

    If you are complaining about the term vinyl being used instead of records it means you are old. Young people don't complain about words.
    One of hallmarks of NOT being cranky is too NOT complain about the term vinyl.
     
  4. A. Scrounger

    A. Scrounger Forum Resident

    Let's call the whole thing off....;)
     
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  5. chacha

    chacha Forum Resident In Memoriam

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    I always call them records, sometimes LPs, and vinyl only when necessary.
     
  6. marcob1963

    marcob1963 Forum Resident

    I agree, records or albums thanks!

    Vinyls, sounds like your talking about clothing or some other accessory.

    In my neck of the woods there's a chain of retail shops, J B Hi Fi, Australian forumites will be familiar with the stores. They have traditionally sold music, CDs etc, mid fi stereos and recently extended to white goods. More recently they've started selling records, which I guess must mean that there is a resurgence in sales. Not that they have a clue about the value of certain records, much to my advantage, I've picked up brand new copies of Revolver in Mono, plus great new pressing of Axis: Bold As Love & the first Elvis album out of their bargain bin!! I almost giggled at the bemused look from the cashier when I bought them.

    Anyway they are now selling turntables, but get this, they call them Vinyl Players. They started out selling a few awful portable Crosley like TTs, a Numark and a Sherwood TT. Then they went upmarket adding a Project Carbon & Audio Technica LP120 to their stocks. Still calling them all Vinyl Players, and charging AU$600 (about US$800) for the AT LP120!!!

    But some of the signs they put on the equipment is priceless. On an overpriced Audio Technica LP60 they had the following emblazoned on a sign, with the aim of seducing you:

    "Quality Vinyl Player Approved by Hipsters"

    Talk about a self defeating marketing strategy.
     
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  7. O Don Piano

    O Don Piano Senior Member

    That's so square!
    Heh.
     
  8. DeRosa

    DeRosa Vinyl Forever

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  9. Neonbeam

    Neonbeam All Art Was Once Contemporary

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    You know if enough native speakers agree that something is acceptable it quickly becomes "proper English":yikes:

    What's even worse is the fact that even some Germans start to use the term "vinyls", the dumbest Anglicism of 'em all.

    Me, I always liked to use the term "vinyl" but always hated its plural "vinyls" (or even better - but a rather German mistake: "vinyl's") But....hey....you can't stop changes. Not even in language. So: Let them eat vinyl's:goodie::goodie:
     
  10. Rick Bartlett

    Rick Bartlett Forum Resident

    this is so strange, I was only just thinking myself, whatever happened to when people called vinyl 'records'??.
    I have always called them 'records' and since when I grew up, I never heard anyone call it 'vinyl'.
    this seems to be a new trend title from the 90's onwards I guess, because back in the day,
    NOBODY called 'records' 'vinyl'. While I have gotten used to it now, I still think I am a 'record' collector,
    not a 'vinyl' collector. I will always be a 'record' guy. I'm old school.
     
  11. Never heard of record and CD being synonymous. Totally different formats.

    "Vinyl" itself is not a proper definition of a record. I don't know about everyone else, but not all my records are made of vinyl and they come in all shapes and sizes.

    Those who refer to records as "vinyls" are idiots and those who think a record could also mean a CD are very close behind them.
     
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  12. Jrr

    Jrr Forum Resident

    Agreed! I'm only adapting to the term so younger people know what I'm talking about. Don't know how the term was successfully introduced after using the word record since the beginning.
     
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  13. John B Good

    John B Good Forum Hall Of Fame

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  14. medium Rob

    medium Rob Forum Resident

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    PM me to learn what words I use to refer to various music formats, you might be surprised and delighted!
     
  15. jamesmaya

    jamesmaya Senior Member

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    :D

    I was recently in a minor dispute with an eBay seller over an album purchase and repeatedly referred to the item as a "rekkid". I think it drove him a little batty.
     
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  16. David Austin

    David Austin Eclectically Coastal

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    I have to say that I had never heard (or, rather, read) the plural term 'vinyls' until I started frequenting this forum. I'm afraid I do use the word 'vinyl' occassionally, but I mainly used the term 'records' (my parents' generation called them 'gramophone records'). There was a time, of course, when it was cool to call them 'discs', and I used to use the expression 'on disc' in writing at one time, but not in speech.

    But... what about 'needle' versus 'stylus'? Everyone seems to say 'needle' these days, but that was considered an old-fashioned term when I was young - the word 'needle' was used by the same people who said 'gramophone record'; you needed as 'stylus' to play a 'microgroove record'.
     
  17. David Austin

    David Austin Eclectically Coastal

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    Records managers and archivists would agree with you about the term 'records', but that wouldn't be the colloquial usage with which most of us are familiar (even though you're right).

    When I was growing up, 'LP' was the usual term for a round 12" piece of black plastic (as opposed to black shellac). 'Record album' and 'album' were seen (rightly or wrongly) as American expressions, though the latter had become a common term in the UK by the time I was a teenager. At one time, my parents thought an album was an LP in a gatefold sleeve!
     
  18. Mrtn77

    Mrtn77 Forum Resident

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    Since you're so wary of public idiocy (very classy, by the way), a couple of points to help you think this through :
    A name doesn't define, it signifies. In that regard, the sort of metonymy implied by calling LPs "Vinyl" is perfectly valid and logical.
    However, there is nothing in the term "record" that pertains exclusively to sound reproduction, be it analog or digital.
    Your own post, for example, is a perfect record of your thinking skills, and there's nothing remotely musical about that, is there ?
     
  19. John B Good

    John B Good Forum Hall Of Fame

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    And, Record Player or Turntable?
     
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  20. richierichie

    richierichie My glass is always full.

    I have 100's of LP vinyls! :D:realmad::D:cussing::cool::cussing::D:cool:
     
  21. Mark B.

    Mark B. Forum Resident

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    Thanks for this!
     
  22. Daedalus

    Daedalus I haven't heard it all.....

    How about:"wecckeds"
     
  23. Daedalus

    Daedalus I haven't heard it all.....

    In some regions you could say"that is one Wikked weccked!!"
     
  24. Damien DiAngelo

    Damien DiAngelo Forum Resident

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    If it has an adjustment for at least the VTF & anti-skate, then it's a turntable.
    Cheap Crosleys and the like are record players.
     
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  25. Classicrock

    Classicrock Senior Member Thread Starter

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    A record player is generally an all in one including amplification and speakers. (most Crosleys). A turntable is the actual playing device sold as a separate item and can include the pick up arm or have space to fit a separate arm. By it's nature it is a higher quality item than that found in integrated record players.
     
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