Pink Floyd The Early Years 1965-1972 -Anticip/ation

That's about 12 minutes or so of music.

 

Sorry to say, but I have to agree with other posters in that it may have been an increasingly rare "good day" for Syd by that point. Also, any stories about Syd taking care of himself, doing chores and the like come from the '90s and '00s where most accounts from the '70s and '80s have his weight ballooning, his spending (mostly on guitars he didn't seem to have any interest in playing) impulsive and nonsensical and so on down the line.

It's a sad picture, but it seems to be the honest one.

 

By the way, the price to dealers for the box is 436.00, so you will not see anything lower than that, so 457.00 will be the minimum. I still don't see how places can charge so little. If I did that, I would be out of business. You can only slash and burn so much before it bites you in the ****. Wal-Mart learned it and Amazon is getting a taste of it now. These other places, who knows.

 

Well my cost (including shipping) was only $418 so Amazon UK must be losing on this one.
EDIT: Actually now $414 with the current exchange rate.

 

You can only do business for so long like that. And yes, of course, all these huge corporations get huge cuts below what us lowly dealers that have been doing this on our own for 20 years can't get, but still selling at a loss or a restrictive margin may bring cash in today, but will there be cash left tomorrow? Anyway, I'm looking forward to getting mine and hopefully selling a few. Thanks for your posts, they have been very informative.

 

436.00 is the wholesale cost to dealers.

 

The fact that they included nine separate versions would seem to bode well for them not all being the same theme or riff.... A stone-cold mystery indeed : )

Song 1, Roger's Boogie, & Theme (Beat version) are all mysteries, also...!

 

The album is a mixture of 2 shows,I believe ASOS is the only track from a different show.There was a guy that had a copy of the full show years ago that was trying to sell it,no idea what happened,looks like the Floyd didn't get it.When I was young that applause stuck out to me,now I'm so used to it,most likely the band added it on.

 

IIRC, all of the vocals were overdubbed later on.

 

...and she has also said that Syd was not mentally ill, that medication was determined unecessary by doctors and that he just wanted to live a quiet, artistic life.

But I guess the armchair psychiatrists at SHTV forums would know better than his sister.

 

"the AORboredom of WYWH"....you said in post #3661

It went downhill from there....

 

Musical taste is subjective. You seem to like that one. Based on sales, it seems so do a lot of other people. I just continued the point.

 

Although less of a mystery than those titles, I can't wait to hear Seabirds in all its glory!

 

I've read (can't remember where, sadly) that one or more tracks are a composite of two versions. True or false?

 

I've heard a boot of the whole (5 song) Manchester College of Commerce show, complete with Rog's stage banter and it seems pretty clear that they overdubbed a fair amount - certainly vocals, which is to be expected (too much spill / indifferent quality stage mics) but possibly more than that. It's hard to identify how much came from each show for that reason. The Birmingham Mother's tape is the one that is in private hands.

 

Wouldn't it be great if they made a documentary on the video restoration process?
Like they did with the Beatles #1 bluray. I love to watch the love and care put into restoring and cleaning old film!

 

On Ummagumma:

- Astronomy Domine / Careful With That Axe, Eugene / Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun:
Instruments recorded live in Manchester, College of Commerce, May 2, 1969
Vocals overdubbed later in studio.

- A Saucerful Of Secrets:
From 00'00" to 03'25": instruments recorded live in Birmingham, Mother's, April 27, 1969
After 03'25": instruments recorded live in Manchester, College of Commerce, May 2, 1969
Vocals overdubbed later in studio.

The show that is in private hands and for which the owner tried to sell a copy to the band ten years ago, is the Birmingham show from April 27. Only some extracts that the guy used to "tease" people have surfaced. These extracts are very clean but are all related to parts without lyrics. I suspect that the recording is only instrumental (the Floyd only had a 4-track machine and didn't record the vocals, knowing that they would record them later in studio).

 

Wow, great information, thanks for sharing. So do you know if the circulating version of Let There Be More Light attributed to the Birmingham show had vocal overdubs?

 

According to Glenn Povey's book called Echoes, the gig at the Bromley Technical College was also recorded, but not used.

 

Exactly what I was looking for; many thanks!

 

The circulating version of Let There Be More Light is just an extract and from a part without lyrics. This is the reason why I suspect that vocals are not present on the Birmingham recording.

 

Just speculating, the recording being a 4-track, my guess is that it would have been either:

1. Drums
2. Bass
3. Guitar
4. Keyboards

(With the idea of recording the vocals in the studio afterwards.)

...or:

1. Drums and bass
2. Guitar
3. Keyboards
4. All vocals

Nevertheless, it would be nice to hear the recordings remixed.

 

I'd love to hear a version of LTBML from 1969! I love the 68 versions

 

Me, three!

 

Wow. Never knew that they re-recorded vocals for these performances. And very interesting infos you have here! Thanks so much for that! I'm sure we all would love to hear both complete concerts, if there were chances for getting the tapes.
I mentioned 'Let There Be More Light' on another thread about Ummagumma and I'm dying to hear that 1969 live version... One of my favorite songs from their second album.