Around The World In 80 Days (1956) won best pic Oscar. Still unrestored, now truly a lost film!

Discussion in 'Visual Arts' started by Steve Hoffman, Jan 9, 2013.

  1. Ghostworld

    Ghostworld Senior Member

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    That's why the Greeks and Romans liked marble.
     
  2. Steve Hoffman

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    Wait, you saw a 70 blow up of the 35??? There was a 70mm 24 frame version. You sure you didn't see that?
     
  3. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff

    Nope -- brain fart. I forgot there was a 24 fps 70mm version, and that's what was out in 1983, I guess. Around that same time, Oklahoma came out in 70mm, and maybe that WAS a blow-up? Too many years ago...... (30+ years back in time.)

    Whatever I saw, I liked it way better than when I saw the 35mm 4-track version in Palo Alto, largely due to the physical presentation (screen size and such).
     
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  4. Lance Hall

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    I wish someone that has a 30fps print would get a friend in the transfer business to scan a scene from it and post to Youtube.
     
  5. TeacFan

    TeacFan Forum Resident In Memoriam

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    Side Factoid FWIW - Oscar Nominees 1957 (not 56 :whistle:)

    Friendly Persuasion
    William Wyler, Producer

    Giant
    George Stevens and Henry Ginsberg, Producers

    The King and I
    Charles Brackett, Producer

    The Ten Commandments
    Cecil B. DeMille, Producer

    Winner
    Around the World in 80 Days
    Michael Todd, Producer​
     
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  6. antoniod

    antoniod Forum Resident

    Something else that can't be restored is the Hollywood career of Mario Moreno "Cantinflas". Because he's dead.
     
  7. antoniod

    antoniod Forum Resident

    But I think that's the best of the De Rita Stooge movies. And so did De Rita.
     
  8. arbogast

    arbogast Clapboard Person

    Oscars are awarded for films released the previous year. Oscar awards nominated and presented in 1957 were for films released in 1956, as were all of the five films listed below.

     
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  9. Anyone?

    Bueller? Bueller??
     
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  10. Steve Hoffman

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    I pulled my old notes out today on 80 Days and wanted to mention something (for the record or whatever).

    The magnetic film stock that was marketed and sold by Todd-AO from 1955-68 was actually made in the UK by Ilford Limited, England. It's dark green in color and does NOT decompose like the brown mag stuff that all the other studios used. Anything that was recorded on Todd-AO mag (music or whatever) has a good chance of being still playable today. Especially if stored in the original cardboard Todd-AO cartons.

    This type of magnetic 35mm film was called by the engineers at Todd-AO "Green Oxide."

    American Optical kept tabs on how many feet were used for 80 Days so they could charge back to Mike Todd for the cost. I find that interesting, though I doubt anyone else in the world will.

    @MLutthans and a few other film fiends here might note that if the Green Oxide Todd-AO mag had been used by all studios for every production from 1955 on, the job of film preservationists would be a lot easier..

    That is all!
     
  11. Raylinds

    Raylinds Resident Lake Surfer

    Love this movie.
     
  12. Derek Gee

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    The LoC holdings sound promising:

    "The Library's "Around the World in 80 Days" footage consists of 426 reels of picture and sound track material, in several languages, in 16mm, 35mm and 70mm. These range from preliminary rough cut "workprints" to production elements, preprints, color separations, tests, shots of the premieres and "behind-the-scenes" footage about the making and publicizing of the movie. The footage includes portions of the original 1957 German, Italian and French versions. Other original sound track material is broken down into various components, such as music, sound effects and dialogue."

    Maybe all is not lost?

    Derek
     
  13. longdist01

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    Thanks for posting and sharing that information Derek!


     
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  14. htom

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    To me this sounds like the makings of a large supplement cache, but not necessarily a full restoration of the Todd-AO 30 fps roadshow version. I'd note nothing says much about the condition of the elements, and that is a key issue.
     
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  15. longdist01

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  16. Steve Hoffman

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    This.
     
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  17. longdist01

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    Someday could this be petitioned via Crowdfund?
     
  18. antoniod

    antoniod Forum Resident

    That the version circulating today uses not-as-good takes as the Todd-AO version reminds me of Sinatra walking off of CAROUSEL because they were going to film two versions, one 35mm and the other "Cinemascope 55". He said to the director "You know I've only got one good take in me". Sounds like he didn't want a "B-level" version of his performance circulating alongside his "good" takes.
     
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  19. GeoffC

    GeoffC Forum Resident

    It's on again now/ today (May 1st) on BBC2 HD, letterboxed, scheduled running time 2 hours 50 minutes. I have no idea which version this is but the HD is looking good.
     
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  20. Todd Fredericks

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    Checking it out now. Yes, looks great!
     
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  21. Quadboy

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    Me too!
    Yes the main film looks great.
    the intro was a bit rough.
     
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  22. Todd Fredericks

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    Not the greatest screen shots with my Ipad......

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  23. Steve Hoffman

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    That's the "dress rehearsal" version.

    The Oscar winning film score makes the movie. Imagine it without it!
     
  24. longdist01

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    So any possibilities on a Restoration via Crowdfund...or give the Todd-AO version a chance?
     
  25. Emberglow

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    Watched and enjoyed this movie on BBC2 over the weekend. I'd seen it on TV years ago but that was bound to be some kind of crappy pan & scan presentation. Question about the speed: Steve said that it was running slowly. If I got a PAL version of the DVD, would that play at a more acceptable speed (PAL runs faster than NTSC)? [There doesn't appear to be a Blu-Ray version that I can find anywhere]
     

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