TAMI And TNT shows together on blu-ray - December 2, 2016.

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And I see on Shouts' web page if you preorder now you get it two weeks early and comes with 2 replica posters of the original shows while supplies last.

 

This is a huge waste in Blu-ray because there's nowhere near 1000 lines of resolution in these kinescopes. After producer Bill Sargent's company went bankrupt, I think all the original elements got scattered a long time ago. Even if you could retrieve the original French 800-line 1964-1965 videotapes, there's not nearly enough image pixels there to justify HD. Heck, it's not very good SD.


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What's interesting to me is that there were leftover pieces from these shows that have never been seen due to legal reasons. I'm curious to see if they'll restore all those lost performances to the new releases.

 

It's still too bad they can't at least "restore" the video look using that LiveFeed Video Imaging process from a few years back. The results were amazing:

 

And another:

 

We're either of these two shows filmed by any chance??

 

Before I started reading, I just wondered whether it wouldn't be a grainy mess. Post #3 refers.

 

I'm not even knowledgeable about the industry like you are, Vidiot, and I had already assumed that the increased resolution of blu-ray would be wasted on this release. That being said, if someone wants both the TAMI Show and TNT Show I can see this release being worthy. If I am not mistaken, the TNT Show has only previously been available as a "grey market" dvd and I would assume that Shout would be able to provide a higher quality product than that. For those who already have the TAMI Show dvd, though, perhaps picking up the soon-to-be-released TNT Show dvd is more sensible.

 

True: this could potentially be a chance to at least restore both shows to the best they could ever possibly look, even if only from a fine-grain B&W print or maybe even the B&W negative. It is possible to selectively sharpen and noise-reduce even kinescopes to make them look acceptable, even though it would never be anywhere near true high definition in terms of resolution. But I'm just skeptical that Shout Factory will spend the time and money necessary to do this well.

Naw, as shown in the diagram, the Electronovision process used big image-orthicon video cameras, captured to high-res videotape. Later, the videotape was edited and transferred to 35mm negative (through a kinescope machine), and then prints were made off the negative and sent to theaters. Nothing was shot directly on film, like the DuMont Electronicam process.

Producer/entrepreneur Bill Sargent was a fascinating guy, and he correctly predicted that someday, it would be possible to electronically capture stage and theatrical productions and then project them to paying audiences. His problem was that he was about 50 years too early.

 

Even if the video may not be the upgrade we would all like it to be I'm wondering if the audio might be significantly improved.

 

I will be at least satisfied that both of these shows are in circulation today, whether the SD resolution is on Blu-ray is debatable. There are so many programs truely unseen or unavailable today on DVD.

I wish that at minimum so of these "Rights holders or sitting on physical older programming" would make some decision to release for once instead of squabbling or letting it all rot away! Too late then to make a few cents on the property!

 

the fact that they release the Tami show without a Blue ray first is really crappy

 

Shout Factory made a big deal about the HD transfer from 35mm film elements that were created from the Electronovision video when the TAMI show was issued on DVD in 2009. So I'm hoping the blu-ray will look good for what it is and maintain the proper aspect ratio which again according to Shout is widescreen.

 

It is possible that the 35mm mag tracks survive, but I think when Electronovision folded at the end of the 1970s, a lot of the negatives and master tracks were scattered to the winds. Phil Spector was involved with these shows, so it's possible he retained a copy for his archives, but I suspect he has bigger things to worry about these days.

In a lot of cases, it's not so much a question of how much money they're going to make. Sometimes, a project is owned by three companies (or families), and if all three can't agree on how to split the money, then the whole thing ends. As one example, the Batman TV shows didn't come out on TV for 50 years, and it turned out it was a dispute between Fox (who owned the show), Warner Bros. (who owned the character), and William Dozier's Greenway Productions. It took years to sort out the legal problems, but one guy eventually did all the legwork and pulled it off:

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Batman was a very famous show that had a huge cult following. Trying to do this with a smaller show that might only make a few thousand dollars will be tough. And the sales market for DVDs and Blu-ray is small these days.

 

Nice to see the TNT Show getting a release, but it does seem a bit of a waste for Blu-ray with what are essentially Kinescopes.

 

This just in: Sting has announced he will be skipping this release and continue to watch the VCR tape he's had for years.

 

While these will see only minor improvements via Blu-ray, I don't see any problem with scanning the extant film elements in HD and putting this out looking as good as possible. We can just pretend it's a "Superbit" DVD essentially.

 

Well I, for one, will buy the BluRay for a clearer view of a 19 year old go-go dancing Toni Basil.

Maybe someone located the 800 line tapes. I wonder if there is any working equipment to play them?

 

Off topic, but has anyone verified who this hep cat in the audience at 1:37 in the TNT trailer is? I dig the look.

 

That's the funniest damned thing I've seen all day -- thanks for that!

 

almost looks like frank zappa

 

Is this coming out on DVD as well or just Blu?

 

Almost? I'd lay money on it.

 

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