Rolling Stones in Mono - 2016 - Content Discussion Only (Mixes, Tracks, etc.)*

For at the pre-Aftermath material, I'd rather have a chronological (by recording date) compilation of every song in mono, plus an extra disc of the relatively few stereo mixes.

 

well not to give those crooks at abcko any credit ,the Stones US lps aren't like the Beatles US Lps,they not only have singles but lp tracks not on the UK lps ,so doing just the UK lps ,isn't good enough,of course they could have added the US only tracks
and they could have not released all those lps Like Flowers and Hot Rocks ,They also gave us sacd ,something apple didn't

 

Paint It Black is on the Big Hits (High Tide) mono lp in the box I seem to remember so I think it will be the UK Aftermath I need to get.

 

Eh.

Big Hits isn't in the new box.

 

I was referring to the 1964-1969 box.

 

I personally am one who doesn't call any of this greed. Especially in 2016 when it is SO very hard to get people to buy physical product. There are lots of mouths to feed in all this projects that IMHO people fail to consider. Designers, writers, printers, pressing plants, photo retouchers, photo licensing, research, mastering engineers, marketing and promotion and so on.

I agree that it's unfair that a box like this that you can get for around $350. in the USA is $600 in Canada and Europe. Don't understand that, but greed? Really? I don't see it.

 

Bad Boy was issued on an American album only originally.

 

yeah 0ne track

 

Universal or ABKCO (or whoever) could have issued a US albums set with non-album tracks on Stray Cats, but would everyone be happy with that?

 

Don't tell me your happy that Shea is not on the new Blue Ray? maybe its rights ,but I think the plain is making us buy that at some point

 

Is Out Of Time on Flowers the short version?

 

Exactly as the 2008 SHM-CD was.

 

I personally don't care as I just posted in that thread. I saw the film again yesterday in theater . So saw Shea twice in a week and I loved it and probably don't need to see it again for a few years. Having said that, sure, I'd love it to be on the new Blu Ray. Maybe Im out of step here with most of the hard core fans, but I find with all these videos, I wanted maybe two times that hardly ever again.

My buddy and I do pull out the Anthology once a year and watch all ten hours though. We ave a fab time.

 

I'm sure it will never happen, but this is basically what a "UK albums + bonus tracks" lineup could look like:

The Rolling Stones
1. Route 66
2. I Just Want to Make Love to You
3. Honest I Do
4. I Need You Baby
5. Now I've Got a Witness (Like Uncle Phil and Uncle Gene)
6. Little by Little
7. I'm a King Bee
8. Carol
9. Tell Me (You're Coming Back)
10. Can I Get a Witness
11. You Can Make It If You Try
12. Walking the Dog

Bonus tracks:
13. Poison Ivy
14. Fortune Teller
15. Bye Bye Johnny
16. Money
17. You Better Move On
18. Poison Ivy
19. Not Fade Away

All tracks mono.

No. 2
1. Everybody Needs Somebody to Love
2. Down Home Girl
3. You Can't Catch Me
4. Time Is on My Side
5. What a Shame
6. Grown Up Wrong
7. Down the Road Apiece
8. Under the Boardwalk
9. I Can't Be Satisfied
10. Pain in My Heart
11. Off the Hook
12. Susie Q

Bonus tracks:
13. It's All Over Now
14. Good Times, Bad Times
15. If You Need Me
16. Empty Heart
17. 2120 South Michigan Ave [complete]
18. Confessin' The Blues
19. Around and Around
20. Time Is On My Side [12 X 5 recording]
21. Congratulations
22. Everybody Needs Somebody To Love [Now! recording]
23. Little Red Rooster
24. Surprise, Surprise

Tracks 1, 4, 5, 7, 9, 13, 15-19 stereo. Remainder mono.

Out Of Our Heads
1. She Said "Yeah"
2. Mercy, Mercy
3. Hitch Hike
4. That's How Strong My Love Is
5. Good Times
6. Gotta Get Away
7. Talkin' 'Bout You
8. Cry to Me
9. Oh, Baby (We Got a Good Thing Going)
10. Heart of Stone
11. The Under Assistant West Coast Promotion Man [unedited]
12. I'm Free

Bonus tracks:
13. The Last Time
14. Play With Fire
15. Satisfaction
16. The Spider and the Fly
17. One More Try
18. Look What You've Done
19. Get Off Of My Cloud
20. The Singer, Not the Song
21. As Tears Go By
22. Blue Turns to Grey
23. We Want The Stones
24. Everybody Needs Somebody To Love
25. Pain in My Heart
26. Route 66
27. I'm Moving On
28. I'm Alright

Tracks 10, 13-15, 18, 19 stereo. Remainder mono.

That's all of the UK albums, everything on the US albums, plus the EP tracks (some of which are on the US albums). Stereo where available: the Chess material is folded down in mono anyway, and the RCA material is/would be mono on Singles Collection.

Of course, that omits the faded 2120, the edited Under Assistant, makes the UK versions "correct" when the truth is arguably a bit more complicated, and results in a ton of bonus tracks for each album.

The Beatles catalog is utterly simple in comparison.

Yes.

 

Slightly off-topic here, but wouldn't there be little to no point in buying the 2010 box (1964-1969) if one has all of the 2002 SACD's? I assume they used the same digital transfers as were found on all the individual SACD releases - only the formatting is different.

 

Thanks - I'm fine through the first two LPs, but looking at the U.K. Out Of Our Heads track list again, can't say I'm down with it. You've got stuff separated by about ten months in recording dates all smushed together on one LP (i.e., late '64 tracks like "Hitch Hike" and "Oh, Baby" next to late '65 stuff like "She Said Yeah" and "I'm Free", etc.). Still think the U.S. Out Of Our Heads is probably a little more cohesive.

Also, "Look What You've Done" would make more sense as a No. 2 bonus track, being that it was recorded during their original sessions at Chess.

 

No. 2
Everybody Needs Somebody to Love
Time Is on My Side
What a Shame
Down the Road Apiece
I Can't Be Satisfied

It's All Over Now
If You Need Me
Empty Heart
2120 South Michigan Ave [complete]
Confessin' The Blues
Around and Around


Out Of Our Heads (UK)
Heart of Stone

The Last Time
Play With Fire
Satisfaction
Look What You've Done
Get Off Of My Cloud

Which of these 17 stereo tracks were recorded at Chess and which, if any, were mixed to mono.

 

You're probably right about Look What You've Done. I didn't think of that.

Not sure what to do about the rest though. The albums by their nature are less than cohesive.

Everything recorded at Chess except Everybody Needs Somebody To Love, Heart of Stone, The Last Time, Play With Fire, Satisfaction, and Get Off Of My Cloud, which were done at RCA. The Chess tracks were only mixed to stereo and folded down to mono. The RCA tracks were mixed to mono and stereo.

 

That's why streaming is the way to go,place the songs in the order you like

 

* Denotes RCA recording mixed to both mono and stereo. Others recorded at Chess and only mixed to stereo.

No. 2
*Everybody Needs Somebody to Love
Time Is on My Side [guitar intro]
What a Shame
Down the Road Apiece
I Can't Be Satisfied

It's All Over Now
If You Need Me
Empty Heart
2120 South Michigan Ave [complete]
Confessin' The Blues
Around and Around
Look What You've Done

Out Of Our Heads (UK)
*Heart of Stone

*The Last Time
*Play With Fire
*Satisfaction
*Get Off Of My Cloud

 

I got Look What You've Done pegged for No. 2 also.

Here are a few of my concepts for albums with bonus cuts... including any track that a Stone appears on. These were conceived before the mono box was announced, and are due for an update.

THE ROLLING STONES (FIRST ALBUM)

1. Route 66 (Mono)
2. I Just Want To Make Love To You (Mono)
3. Honest I Do (Mono)
4. Mona (Mono)
5. Now I’ve Got A Witness (Mono)
6. Little By Little (Mono)
7. I’m A King Bee (Mono)
8. Carol (Mono)
9. Tell Me (Mono) (Full version without fade)
10. Can I Get A Witness (Mono)
11. You Can Make It If You Try (Mono)
12. Walking The Dog (Mono)
    1. The Rolling Stones, April 16, 1964
13. Tell Me (Test Pressing Version)
    1. The Rolling Stones Test Pressing edition, April 1964
14. Come On (Mono)
15. I Want To Be Loved (Mono)
    1. Come On/I Want To Be Loved single, June 7, 1963
16. Secret Love (Mono)
    1. Secret Love/Lonely Weekends, October 1963
17. I Wanna Be Your Man (Mono)
18. Stoned (Mono)
    1. I Wanna Be Your Man/Stoned single, November 1, 1963
19. To Know Him Is To Love Him
20. There Are But Five Rolling Stones
    1. To Know Him Is To Love Him/There Are But Five Rolling Stones single, January 10, 1964
21. Will You Be My Lover Tonight?
22. It Should Be You
    1. Will You Be My Lover Tonight?/It Should Be You single, January 10, 1964
23. The Girl Belongs To Yesterday
    1. That Girl Belongs To Yesterday/Who Needs It single, January 1964
24. Bye Bye Johnny (Mono)
25. Money (Mono)
26. You Better Move On (Mono)
27. Poison Ivy (Mono)
    1. The Rolling Stones EP, January 17, 1964
28. Fortune Teller (Mono)
29. Poison Ivy (Mono)
    1. Saturday Club, January 25, 1964
30. Funky And Fleopatra
    1. Animal Duds/Funky And Fleopatra single, February 7, 1964
31. Not Fade Away
    1. Not Fade Away/Little By Little single, February 21, 1964
32. Give Me Your Hand
    1. Always/Give Me Your Hand single, March 1964
33. Shang A Doo Lang
34. When A Girl Really Loves You
    1. Shang A Doo Lang/When A Girl Really Loves You single, March 20, 1964
35. 365 Rolling Stones
36. Oh I Do Like To See Me On The B Side
    1. 365 Rolling Stones/Oh I Do Like To See Me On The B Side single, April 10, 1964
37. Good Times, Bad Times
    1. It’s All Over Now/Good Times, Bad Times single, June 26, 1964
38. As Tears Go By
    1. As Tears Go By/Greensleeves single, July 1964
39. So Much In Love
    1. So Much In Love/Sometime They Say single, August 28, 1964
40. You Must Be The One
    1. If This World Were Mine/You Must Be The One single, November 1964
41. Fortune Teller (underdub)
42. Poison Ivy (underdub)
    1. More Hot Rocks, June 1987
43. Diddley Daddy
44. Road Runner
45. Bright Lights, Big City
46. Honey What’s Wrong
47. I Want To Be Loved
48. Route 66
49. Cops And Robbers
50. You Better Move On
51. Mona
    1. GRRR!, November 12, 2012

THE ROLLING STONES NO. 2

1. Everybody Needs Somebody To Love (Long Version) (Mono)
2. Down Home Girl (Mono)
3. You Can’t Catch Me (Mono)
4. Time Is On My Side (Guitar Intro) (Mono)
5. What A Shame (Mono)
6. Grown Up Wrong (Mono)
7. Down The Road Apiece (Mono)
8. Under The Boardwalk (Mono)
9. I Can’t Be Satisfied (Mono)
10. Pain In My Heart (Mono)
11. Off The Hook (Mono)
12. Suzie Q (Mono)
    1. The Rolling Stones No. 2, January 15, 1965
13. It’s All Over Now (Mono)
    1. It’s All Over Now/Good Times, Bad Times single, June 26, 1964
14. If You Need Me (Mono)
15. Empty Heart (Mono)
16. 2120 South Michigan Avenue (Mono, edited)
17. Confessin’ The Blues (Mono)
18. Around And Around (Mono)
    1. Five By Five EP, August 14, 1964
19. Time Is On My Side (Organ Version)
20. Congratulations
    1. Time Is On My Side/Congratulations single, September 26, 1964
21. I Get Around
    1. East Meets West, October, 1964
22. Needles And Pins
23. I Don’t Know What To Do With Myself
24. I Want To Hold Your Hand
25. Da Doo Ron Ron
26. Memphis, Tennessee
27. You’re No Good
    1. 16 Hop Hits, October 2, 1964
28. Carrying On
    1. Plays Lionel Bart’s Maggie May, October 1964
29. Blowin’ In The Wind
30. House Of The Rising Sun
    1. Blowin’ In The Wind/House Of The Rising Sun single, October 23, 1964
31. Little Red Rooster
    1. Little Red Rooster/Off The Hook single, November 13, 1964
32. A Mess Of The Blues (Mono)
33. Love Me Baby (Mono)
    1. In Touch With Peter And Gordon, December 18, 1964
34. A Mess Of The Blues (Stereo)
35. Love Me Baby (Stereo)
    1. In Touch With Peter And Gordon, December 18, 1964
36. All I Want Is My Baby
37. Each And Every Day Of The Year
    1. All I Want Is My Baby/Each And Every Day Of The Year single, November 27, 1964
38. Blue Turns To Grey
    1. Blue Turns To Grey/I’m Lost Without You single, February, 1965
39. Everybody Needs Somebody To Love (Short Version)
40. Surprise, Surprise
    1. Now!, February 13, 1965
41. Sleep City
    1. Sleepy City/Sir Edward And Lady Jane single, July 16, 1965
42. Wastin’ Time
    1. Someday/Wastin’ Time single, October 14, 1965
43. Look What You’ve Done (Mono)
    1. December’s Children (And Everybody’s), December 4, 1965
44. Look What You’ve Done (Stereo)
    1. December’s Children (And Everybody’s), December 4, 1965
45. It’s All Over Now (Stereo)
46. Time Is On My Side (Guitar Intro) (Stereo)
    1. Big Hits (High Tides And Green Grass), November 4, 1966
47. What A Shame (Stereo)
48. Down The Road Apiece (Stereo)
49. I Can’t Be Satisfied (Stereo)
    1. Unstoppable Stones, 1969
50. 2120 South Michigan Avenue (Mono unedited)
    1. Around And Around, 1970
51. Everybody Needs Somebody To Love (Long) (Stereo)
    1. Rock ‘N’ Rolling Stones, October 13, 1972
52. 2120 South Michigan Avenue (Stereo edited)
    1. No Stone Unturned, October 5, 1973)
53. If You Need Me (Stereo)
54. Empty Heart (Stereo)
55. Confessin’ The Blues (Stereo)
56. Around And Around (Stereo)
    1. Five By Five EP reissue, 1980’s
57. Tell Me (2nd Version)
    1. The Rest Of The Best, December 16, 1983
58. 2120 South Michigan Avenue (Stereo unedited)
    1. Remastered, 2002
59. Under The Boardwalk (Overdub/remix)
    1. Classics, July 20, 2009

 

Bonus tracks appearing on the same discs as original albums will never happen.
The 1970 contract between Klein/Stones, which to this day are in charge, prevent ABKCO to extend any album in tracklisting. Should an expanded version of an original album appear, the bonus tracks will have to appear on a seperate bonus disc.

 

Thankfully I can build my own!

 

I bit the bullet and ordered the vinyl box.

 

You said you were going to. It wouldn't have been right if you didn't.