Bob Dylan: The 1966 Live Recordings - Sony 36-CD box-set - November 11th 2016

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  1. notesfrom

    notesfrom Forum Resident

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    Small box. No big book. :cry:

    Looks amazing from where I sit anyways. :)
     
  2. bubba-ho-tep

    bubba-ho-tep Resident Ne'er-Do-Well

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    For a hundred bucks I'm not complaining one bit.
     
  3. George P

    George P Notable Member

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    Interesting. I assumed that all shows were complete. Can I ask if the incomplete shows are missing entire songs or simply missing the banter?
     
  4. joannenugent

    joannenugent Forum Resident

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    Looks like it might match the Complete Albums box rather well in size.
     
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  5. Reader

    Reader Senior Member

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    I understand that the VAT is removed from the 104.86 pounds price to get 87.38 pounds. I wondered how the $117.33 price (which 2 people here stated they paid at Amazon UK) is figured because you can't use US dollars since it is a pre-order. Can it be converted?


    I like the looks of the set. Much better to stay simple without lots of "extras" to up the price. Really look forward to hearing this.

    Nov. is going to be an exciting month for other reasons also.
     
  6. notesfrom

    notesfrom Forum Resident

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    It's just hard to read the liner notes of some of these CD booklets. It's Stuart Little sized.
     
  7. munjeet

    munjeet Forum Resident

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    The version of "Just Like A Woman" that directly proceeds it is, also. Amazing, especially the vocal coming out of the bridge. My go-to version, even though Bob is struggling with the guitar tuning a bit. Whether it remains definitive is still to be seen...
     
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  8. Doug Schiller

    Doug Schiller Senior Member

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    Sorry if this has been asked...
    Is this an official Bootleg release?

    I'll gobble this up and love it but I will be crushed if this means the Blood on Tracks rumored set will be delayed another year.
     
  9. Cousin It

    Cousin It Senior Member

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    I'm not even a big Bob fan but at that price I might even bite.
     
  10. munjeet

    munjeet Forum Resident

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    On some of the Nagra recorded shows, there are instances where the recorder ran out, or started late. "She Belings To Me" was especially susceptible to a late-starting recording, due to being first. Not totally surprised that they're not all complete. This is far, far more than I ever thought I'd get to hear!
     
  11. posnera

    posnera Forum Resident

    Exactly. This is a completely new concept in music sales. Record executives have not exactly been known for quick thinking and innovation. Hopefully sales of this set will encourage them to properly package the previous copyright sets.
    The music exists and discs don't cost much to produce. Isis, Rolling Stone and the rest of the internet are basically free advertising. These sets should have a very similar profit margin to the 6cd BS sets.
     
  12. BeenAround

    BeenAround Forum Resident

    For people who are fans of both Bob Dylan and Pink Floyd, November is going to be brutal. This is all glorious madness.
     
  13. Tom Schreck

    Tom Schreck Forum Resident

    I read through the thread but didn't see this. I took the disc listings and track listings and combined them into one list:

    CD 1 -Sydney, April 13, 1966 (Soundboard recorded by TCN 9 TV Australia)
    1. She Belongs to Me (Incomplete)
    2. Fourth Time Around
    3. Visions of Johanna
    4. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue
    5. Desolation Row
    6. Just Like a Woman
    7. Mr. Tambourine Man

    CD 2 -Sydney, April 13, 1966 (Soundboard recorded by TCN 9 TV Australia)
    1. Tell Me, Momma
    2. I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met)
    3. Baby, Let Me Follow You Down
    4. Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues
    5. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
    6. One Too Many Mornings
    7. Ballad of a Thin Man
    8. Positively 4th Street

    CD 3 -Melbourne, April 20, 1966 (Soundboard / unknown broadcast)
    1. She Belongs to Me (Incomplete)
    2. Fourth Time Around
    3. Visions of Johanna
    4. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue
    5. Desolation Row
    6. Just Like a Woman
    7. Tell Me, Momma (Fragment)
    8. Baby, Let Me Follow You Down
    9. Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues

    CD 4 -Copenhagen, May 1, 1966 (Soundboard)
    1. She Belongs to Me
    2. Fourth Time Around (Fragment)
    3. Baby, Let Me Follow You Down
    4. Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues
    5. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat (Incomplete)
    6. Ballad of a Thin Man
    7. Like a Rolling Stone

    CD 5 -Dublin, May 5, 1966 (Soundboard)
    1. She Belongs to Me
    2. Fourth Time Around
    3. Visions of Johanna
    4. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue
    5. Desolation Row
    6. Just Like a Woman
    7. Mr. Tambourine Man

    CD 6 -Dublin, May 5, 1966 (Soundboard)
    1. Tell Me, Momma
    2. I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met)
    3. Baby, Let Me Follow You Down
    4. Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues
    5. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
    6. One Too Many Mornings
    7. Ballad of a Thin Man
    8. Like a Rolling Stone

    CD 7 -Belfast, May 6, 1966 (Soundboard)
    1. She Belongs to Me
    2. Fourth Time Around
    3. Visions of Johanna
    4. Desolation Row
    5. Just Like a Woman
    6. Mr. Tambourine Man

    CD 8 -Belfast, May 6, 1966 (Soundboard)
    1. Tell Me, Momma
    2. I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met)
    3. Baby, Let me Follow You Down
    4. Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues
    5. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
    6. One Too Many Mornings
    7. Ballad of a Thin Man
    8. Like a Rolling Stone

    CD 9 -Bristol, May 10, 1966 (Soundboard / audience)
    1. Fourth Time Around
    2. Mr. Tambourine Man
    3. She Belongs to Me
    4. Vision of Johanna
    5. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue
    6. Desolation Row
    7. Just Like a Woman

    CD 10 -Bristol, May 10, 1966 (Soundboard)
    1. Tell Me, Momma
    2. I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met)
    3. Baby, Let Me Follow You Down
    4. Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues
    5. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
    6. One Too Many Mornings (Incomplete)
    7. Ballad of a Thin Man
    8. Like a Rolling Stone

    CD 11 -Cardiff, May 11, 1966 (Soundboard)
    1. Tell Me, Momma
    2. I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met)
    3. Baby Let Me Follow You Down
    4. Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues
    5. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
    6. One Too Many Mornings
    7. Ballad of a Thin Man
    8. Like a Rolling Stone

    CD 12 -Birmingham, May 12, 1966 (Soundboard)
    1. She Belongs to Me
    2. Fourth Time Around
    3. Visions of Johanna (Incomplete)
    4. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue
    5. Desolation Row (Incomplete)
    6. Just Like a Woman
    7. Mr. Tambourine Man

    CD 13 -Birmingham, May 12, 1966 (Soundboard)
    1. Tell Me, Momma
    2. I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met)
    3. Baby, Let Me Follow You Down
    4. Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues
    5. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
    6. One Too Many Mornings
    7. Ballad of a Thin Man
    8. Like a Rolling Stone

    CD 14 -Liverpool, May 14, 1966 (Soundboard)
    1. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue
    2. Desolation Row
    3. Just Like a Woman
    4. Mr. Tambourine Man
    5. Tell Me, Momma (Incomplete - Drop Out)
    6. I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met)
    7. Baby, Let Me Follow You Down
    8. Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues
    9. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
    10. One Too Many Mornings
    11. Ballad of a Thin Man
    12. Like a Rolling Stone

    CD 15 -Leicester, May 15, 1966 (Soundboard)
    1. She Belongs to Me
    2. Fourth Time Around
    3. Visions of Johanna
    4. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue
    5. Desolation Row
    6. Just Like a Woman
    7. Mr. Tambourine Man

    CD 16 -Leicester, May 15, 1966 (Soundboard)
    1. Tell Me, Momma
    2. I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met)
    3. Baby, Let Me Follow You Down
    4. Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues
    5. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
    6. One Too Many Mornings
    7. Ballad of a Thin Man
    8. Like a Rolling Stone

    CD 17 -Sheffield, May 16, 1966 (CBS Records recording)
    1. She Belongs to Me
    2. Fourth Time Around
    3. Visions of Johanna
    4. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue
    5. Desolation Row
    6. Just Like a Woman
    7. Mr. Tambourine Man

    CD 18 -Sheffield, May 16, 1966 (Soundboard)
    1. Tell Me, Momma
    2. I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met)
    3. Baby, Let Me Follow You Down
    4. Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues
    5. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
    6. One Too Many Mornings
    7. Ballad of a Thin Man
    8. Like a Rolling Stone

    CD 19 -Manchester, May 17, 1966 (CBS Records recording)
    1. She Belongs to Me
    2. Fourth Time Around
    3. Visions of Johanna
    4. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue
    5. Desolation Row
    6. Just Like a Woman
    7. Mr. Tambourine Man

    CD 20 -Manchester, May 17, 1966 (CBS Records recording except Soundcheck/ Soundboard)
    1. Tell Me, Momma
    2. I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met)
    3. Baby, Let Me Follow You Down
    4. Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues
    5. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
    6. One Too Many Mornings
    7. Ballad of a Thin Man
    8. Like a Rolling Stone
    9. Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues (Incomplete) Soundcheck

    CD 21 -Glasgow, May 19, 1966 (Soundboard)
    1. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue
    2. Desolation Row (Incomplete)
    3. Just Like a Woman
    4. Mr. Tambourine Man
    5. Tell Me, Momma
    6. I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met)
    7. Baby, Let Me Follow You Down
    8. Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues
    9. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
    10. One Too Many Mornings (Incomplete)
    11. Ballad of a Thin Man
    12. Like a Rolling Stone

    CD 22 -Edinburgh, May 20, 1966 (Soundboard)
    1. She Belongs to Me
    2. Fourth Time Around
    3. Visions of Johanna
    4. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue
    5. Desolation Row (Incomplete)
    6. Just Like a Woman
    7. Mr. Tambourine Man

    CD 23 -Edinburgh, May 20, 1966 (Soundboard)
    1. Tell Me, Momma
    2. I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met)
    3. Baby, Let Me Follow You Down
    4. Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues
    5. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
    6. One Too Many Mornings
    7. Ballad of a Thin Man
    8. Like a Rolling Stone

    CD 24 -Newcastle, May 21, 1966 (Soundboard)
    1. She Belongs to Me (Incomplete)
    2. Fourth Time Around
    3. Visions of Johanna
    4. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue
    5. Desolation Row (Incomplete)
    6. Just Like a Woman
    7. Mr. Tambourine Man

    CD 25 -Newcastle, May 21, 1966 (Soundboard)
    1. Tell Me, Momma
    2. I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met)
    3. Baby, Let Me Follow You Down
    4. Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues
    5. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
    6. One Too Many Mornings
    7. Ballad of a Thin Man
    8. Like a Rolling Stone

    CD 26 -Paris, May 24, 1966 (Soundboard)
    1. She Belongs to Me
    2. Fourth Time Around
    3. Visions of Johanna
    4. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue
    5. Desolation Row (Incomplete)
    6. Just Like a Woman
    7. Mr. Tambourine Man

    CD 27 -Paris, May 24, 1966 (Soundboard)
    1. Tell Me, Momma
    2. I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met)
    3. Baby, Let Me Follow You Down
    4. Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues
    5. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
    6. One Too Many Mornings
    7. Ballad of a Thin Man
    8. Like a Rolling Stone

    CD 28 -London, May 26, 1966 (CBS Records recording)
    1. She Belongs to Me
    2. Fourth Time Around
    3. Visions of Johanna
    4. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue
    5. Desolation Row
    6. Just Like a Woman
    7. Mr. Tambourine Man

    CD 29 -London, May 26, 1966 (CBS Records recording)
    1. Tell Me, Momma
    2. I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met)
    3. Baby, Let Me Follow You Down
    4. Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues
    5. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
    6. One Too Many Mornings
    7. Ballad of a Thin Man
    8. Like a Rolling Stone

    CD 30 -London, May 27, 1966 (CBS Records recording)
    1. She Belongs to Me
    2. Fourth Time Around
    3. Visions of Johanna
    4. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue
    5. Desolation Row
    6. Just Like a Woman
    7. Mr. Tambourine Man

    CD 31 -London, May 27, 1966 (CBS Records recordings)
    1. Tell Me, Momma
    2. I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met)
    3. Baby, Let Me Follow You Down
    4. Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues
    5. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
    6. One Too Many Mornings
    7. Ballad of a Thin Man
    8. Like a Rolling Stone

    CD 32 -White Plains, NY, February 5, 1966 (Audience tape)
    1. She Belongs to Me
    2. To Ramona
    3. Visions of Johanna
    4. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue
    5. Desolation Row
    6. Love Minus Zero / No Limit
    7. Mr. Tambourine Man
    8. Tell Me, Momma
    9. I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met) [Incomplete]

    CD 33 -Pittsburgh, PA, February 6, 1966 (Audience tape)
    1. She Belongs to Me
    2. To Ramona
    3. Visions of Johanna
    4. Desolation Row (Incomplete)
    5. Love Minus Zero / No Limit (Incomplete)
    6. Mr. Tambourine Man
    7. Positively 4th Street
    8. Like a Rolling Stone

    CD 34 -Hempstead, NY, February 26, 1966 (Audience tape)
    1. She Belongs to Me
    2. Fourth Time Around
    3. Visions of Johanna
    4. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue
    5. Desolation Row
    6. Love Minus Zero / No Limit
    7. Mr. Tambourine Man
    8. Tell Me, Momma
    9. I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met)
    10. Baby, Let Me Follow You Down
    11. Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues
    12. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
    13. One Too Many Mornings (Incomplete)

    CD 35 -Melbourne, April 19, 1966 (Audience tape)
    1. She Belongs to Me
    2. Fourth Time Around
    3. Visions of Johanna
    4. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue
    5. Desolation Row
    6. Just Like a Woman
    7. Mr. Tambourine Man
    8. Tell Me, Momma
    9. I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met)
    10. Baby, Let Me Follow You Down
    11. Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues
    12. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat (Fragment)

    CD 36 -Stockholm, April 29, 1966 (Audience tape)
    1. She Belongs to Me
    2. Fourth Time Around
    3. Visions of Johanna
    4. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue
    5. Desolation Row (Incomplete)
    6. I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met)
    7. Baby, Let Me Follow You Down
    8. Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues (Fragment)
    9. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat (Incomplete)
    10. One Too Many Mornings (Incomplete)
    11. Ballad of a Thin Man (Incomplete)
     
  14. Tom Schreck

    Tom Schreck Forum Resident

    I haven't spent a TON of time with unreleased '66 material like some of you have, so are there any revelations in this track listing? (or is it too early to tell?)

    For instance, I see they've added a soundcheck to the Manchester show (disc 20), which many of us know as BS4/"Fake" Royal Albert. Probably not earth-shattering, but notable nonetheless.
     
  15. Some quick impressions...

    • From the review: "with the exception of...the overwhelming majority of tracks and performances are previously unreleased in any format - official or bootlegged..." Huh??? Don't know what they're smoking there, but the "overwhelming majority" have indeed been bootlegged substantially. Though even for owners of those sets, the previously uncirculated stuff will make this set more than worth delving into...
    • The goal is to some degree a copyright protection effort of course, with a recognizable difference - the notoriety and quality of the '66 performances lends them a much higher degree of potential profitability than the earlier collections, thus justifying the additional effort to produce a commercial release.
    • I fully expect this set to once and for all put the "historic" Manchester set in its proper place as just another concert from the tour - a mostly solid performance enlivened by some especially vitriolic interplay with the audience - but musically, one that was equaled or surpassed in quality by several others either in part or in whole (I'm especially looking at you - electric Liverpool - and you - acoustic Sheffield and acoustic RAH). I dearly hope this release features a more natural, less processed mix of Manchester than the original Bootleg Series release.
    • Though I hesitate to go "there", one cannot help but remark upon on the vastly different approaches to archival releases by Dylan and his organization on the one hand, and a certain group from Liverpool and their organization on the other. Whereas one has now gone out of their way to service their most dedicated fans with as complete a representation of the artist's work from this period as is possible to produce, the other remains obsessed with maintaining a carefully burnished, polished "image", and won't even release a fair and accurate representation of their professionally recorded shows. And don't tell me there aren't plenty of other Beatles live performances - indeed, ones that exceed in recording quality many that are coming out on this set - that aren't worthy of a wider hearing, as there most definitely are...
     
    Last edited: Sep 27, 2016
  16. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident Thread Starter

    You beat me to it! I'm sitting here working on the cut and paste, and just as I complete the chore, I refresh before posting and there it is.

    Thanks, Tom Shreck.
     
  17. captwillard

    captwillard Forum Resident

    Location:
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    No US release?
     
  18. Bemagnus

    Bemagnus Music is fun

    I would never-in any way-criticise-a project like this. They have the recordings-it s fairly cheap to produce-and of course there will be an audience. Even I might go for it even though I doubt it. Still one can wonder-is there really a reason to release everything just because you can.
    Had their made a similar project regarding the never ending tour I would not have hesitated though.
    Still asking myself-who on earth would listen through all these recordings.The question Why I don t even dare to ask.
    I love Dylan-own pretty much everything thats officially released and then some. But everything has a limit. Perhaps mine is this amount of cd:s covering one tour. I did not go for the 18 cd Cutting edge either. Not because of the price but more because of the idea of listening through every little thing that was recorded during that mercurial phrase in Dylans life. The 6 cd is great and fills more than enough holes for me,
     
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  19. DeeThomaz

    DeeThomaz Senior Member

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    Great work, Tom! I was just about to do this too, so in addition to creating a useful list, you saved me some effort!
     
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  20. Tom Schreck

    Tom Schreck Forum Resident

    Two "c"s in Schreck. And you're welcome. :)
     
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  21. DTK

    DTK Forum Resident

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    Great era...overkill in the extreme, but hey, I don't have to buy it :).
     
  22. Stone Turntable

    Stone Turntable Independent Head

    Location:
    New Mexico USA
    Worth it for just "Tell Me, Momma," "Tell Me, Momma," "Tell Me, Momma," "Tell Me, Momma," "Tell Me, Momma," "Tell Me, Momma," "Tell Me, Momma," "Tell Me, Momma," "Tell Me, Momma," "Tell Me, Momma," "Tell Me, Momma," "Tell Me, Momma," "Tell Me, Momma," "Tell Me, Momma," "Tell Me, Momma," "Tell Me, Momma," "Tell Me, Momma," "Tell Me, Momma," "Tell Me, Momma," and "Tell Me, Momma."
     
  23. TimeandTempo

    TimeandTempo Forum Resident

    Location:
    Chicago, IL
    Don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but Mojo is reporting:

    This set has been mixed by engineer Chris Shaw who has previously worked with Dylan on “Love And Theft” and Modern Times.

    Dylan Live In 1966: Huge Box Set Due November 11 | MOJO »

    That gives me hope. Chris seems to do a fantastic job. L&T is the closest I think Dylan's gotten to that live NET sound in a studio.
     
  24. Mitchum

    Mitchum Well-Known Member

    I can't believe this...

    I just can't
     
  25. Lars1966

    Lars1966 Forum Resident

    Yes, thanks Tom, it's all beginning to make sense now. It's almost like a community round here sometimes, isn't it?
     

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