David Bowie "Who Can I Be Now ?(1974-1976)" / "The Gouster"

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Bowie Fett, Jul 21, 2016.

  1. Ben Adams

    Ben Adams Forum Resident

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    Great to know. I'll do chat when I get home.
     
  2. BlueSpeedway

    BlueSpeedway YES, I'M A NERD

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    Yes, you reminded me that the sound of the current Nassau is so awful it's often overlooked that they ALSO edit and fade aspects of the multitrack. Bowie's loud and clear, wild and delirious repeated cries of "staaaay!" during the lengthy freakout final section are disappeared on the current version, they're IMO one of the best things about Stay in Nassau on the Ryko/EMI and boot versions.
     
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  3. liv3evil

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    Brian Gardner did the Nassau mastering for the 2010/2016 Nassau CDs, right? Right or wrong for the 'rock' medium, I am hard-pressed to think of any album he has mastered that isn't nuked, or that I could listen to from start/finish without taking a break.
     
  4. quicksrt

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    He needs to be told that he wrecked one of the most important and legendary unreleased live concert recordings. And we will never forget it.
     
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  5. soundQman

    soundQman Senior Member

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    Can anyone tell me if the hardback book contents are any different between the CD box and the vinyl box? I see the ads list the CD box set book as having about 50% more pages, but is it just smaller pages? I don't know if the physical boxes are sized differently either. Thanks.
     
  6. Ben Adams

    Ben Adams Forum Resident

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    Thanks! It worked! I finally have the Autorips!
     
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  7. brimuchmuze

    brimuchmuze Forum Resident

    Vinyl box is sized for vinyl, CD box sized for CDs, and the books fit the boxes. Smaller = more pages and harder to read.
     
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  8. fitzysbuna

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    dam caved in ! I just ordered the cd box!
     
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  9. Dave Thompson

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    Still don't think it's as bad as "Ziggy Stardust: The Motion Picture" compared with the old "His Master's Voice" boot from the original TV broadcast. Cut the intro, cut Jeff Beck, cut the full farewell speech, mix down guitars and mix up backing vocals... not even all the extra tracks were worth what happened to Ronson's "Moonage Daydream" solo.
     
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  10. slainte

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    listened to diamond dogs...def enjoyed it.

    ripping the rest to my library. having a hard time finding artwork for david live 2005 mix. aside from album art exchange, are there any other places you guys can recommend?
     
  11. Steve Martin

    Steve Martin Wild & Crazy Guy

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  12. TeddyB

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    House mixer Robin Mayhew's complete board tape of the Hammersmith show is pretty cool too.
     
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  13. slainte

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  14. Andysheff

    Andysheff New Member

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    I noticed that before this box was released a lot of people were 'bashing' it, and now everyone seems happy(more or less). I thought it seemed a nice set from the beginning and although it's getting panned on here I still like nassau '76 (I have the CD set)
     
  15. liv3evil

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    When reading through the 2010 deluxe StS booklet last PM, I noticed that Brian Gardner was chosen as mastering engineer for the project (Nassau) as he mastered aka cut the original StS. I did not know this! It makes it even more puzzling that he would opt to heavily limit the audio, having such a long, dynamic relationship with it.

    From the booklet:

    When it came time to "Master" the two projects, the first engineer of choice that came to mind was Brian Gardner who had mastered the original Station to Station back in the 70s. At the time Brian worked for Allen Zentz Mastering in Hollywood. In those days we were still using Neumann disk cutting lathes and once all of the audio decisions were made for each song......cont.

    For a lark, also in the book, under "Technical Notes" (verbatim; my emphasis in bold):

    Due to the nature of the flat transfers of the original analog master and RCA CD master compared to the newly mixed and mastered audio of the Station to Station 5.1 new stereo and Live Nassau '76, there is a considerable difference in level between the two formats. Please note that this is not an error and exists to maintain the integrity of the older masters used in the creation of this release. We hope this does not in anyway detract from your enjoyment of this product.
     
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  16. karmaman

    karmaman Forum Resident

    original mastering engineer Gardner and original producer/mixer Maslin. time has clearly not been kind to their ears.
     
  17. SammyJoe

    SammyJoe Up The Irons!

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    Just got call from Mrs SammyJoe, that my both sets (cd & vinyl) "Who Can I Be Now? (1974-1976)" have arrived to our home.
    Nice gesture from Amazon.co.uk to send these on expedited deliver for free (as I told you about little problems with my order earlier).
    So anyways, later today after I have done other little activies Im gonna make few cups of coffee and Im gonna do little listening-session here.
    Of course, when the weekend comes I will listen more properly and get fully immersed.
     
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  18. quicksrt

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    Thanks for the update! Some of us love those "mine arrived. But I haven't listened to it yet" type posts. Lol!!
     
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  19. SammyJoe

    SammyJoe Up The Irons!

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    Actually it's hard for me to listen since Im not home yet, well I can call Mrs. SammyJoe to play those:winkgrin:
    Ok, sure I will repost here when have done something with those shiny things in the boxsets..
     
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  20. footprintsinthesand

    footprintsinthesand Reasons to be cheerful part 1

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    Oh, I can just visualize Mrs SammyJoe resting her behind on that precious vinyl box right now .... wondering: what will he do first when he gets home, surely It's Gonna Be Me :confused:
     
  21. SammyJoe

    SammyJoe Up The Irons!

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    You forgot the cd-boxset:targettiphat: well, anyways I got stuff to do later today, so actual listening will take place during weekend.
     
  22. NumberEight

    NumberEight Came too late and stayed too long

    So, as far as The Gouster and Young Americans having different versions of the track in question, have they finally got their YA-YAs out? ;)
     
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  23. Jim B.

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    Thank god, I will be able to sleep tonight now Ben ;)
     
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  24. Solace

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    What your opinion on the new remasters Karmaman?
     
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  25. karmaman

    karmaman Forum Resident

    sorry, haven't heard them. vinyl arriving tomorrow, japanese CD release still a few weeks away.
     

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