Lady Gaga announces new single 'Perfect Illusion' and album JOANNE (21st October 2016)

i only watched the first song, but that was lip syncing with prerecorded instrumentation. no doubt about it.

 

No slam intended. Just can't see how she'd be "power pop."

 

Then she did a fantastic job of not only synching the lyrics but also the mic pops, breaths, and the "c'mon! Hands up! SNL let's hear it!" shout-out she gave two minutes into it

 

She's a pro.

 

Which is exactly why she didn't lipsynch on SNL

 

What did she say about lip-synching?

I think she's gotten worse about it in recent years. The "Monster Ball" lacked "true lip-synching", IIRC - ie, any non-live vocals weren't presented as if they were coming from Gaga live.

Didn't see "Born This Way Ball", but heard a lot of lipping occurred, and there was definitely some on the 2014 tour.

Surprising because in 2010-11, she'd go on rants about how lipping was a betrayal to the fans!

Because I'm a freak?

It's just the way I like to do it. No logic behind it, but I like to wait until the physical CD is in hand to hear it.

It's also probably because I virtually never feel "urgent" to hear a new album. Can't remember the last time I was breathless in anticipation for a new release from anybody!

 

Has there been much/any obvious lipping on "SNL" since the Ashlee Simpson episode? I know "SNL" crew severely frowned on anyone lipping, and I have to imagine the show's got even tougher on it since Simpson created such embarrassment...

 

She's gone in on people who use playback and lip-syncing, but she's done it. And she's been nailed for it.

But it's SNL. Who cares. It's not like it's a concert where people pay hundreds of DOLLARS, BRITNEY...

 

oh...then my bad.
i guess you & i have different definition of 'power pop'.
to me...power pop represents Big chorus, Power vocal, Rock edge, etc. something like 'Bad Romance' and really, most of her well-known tunes.
maybe its different in your book which is fine...my apology for barking at ya.

 

Power pop is actually an established genre. Check out Tommy Keene.

 

got it...i did say 'her brand' of power pop...not that it matters.

 

If she did do power pop, that would be a very radical change of direction.

 

There is no way she would lip-sync on SNL.

My favorite performances by her have been on Howard Stern with Gaga just on the piano.

Here's Million Reasons she performed on Howard Stern today or yesterday, whenever it was.

 

Pretty much.

 

Joanne's metacritic score has increased!

Metacritic: Joanne by Lady Gaga »

 

I don't know about other SNL music guests since Ashlee Simpson, but I think it's clear that Lady Gaga's vocals were live during her performance.

Aside from the SNL shout-out, there are some other moments during the song where it's obvious she's live. One that immediately comes to mind is where her mic stand is being held by the dancers: as they briefly fumble it Gaga goes off-mic and so do the vocals. If that is a lip-synch job then not only is Gaga a master then so are the dancers who would have had to move the mic away from her at exactly the right moments. There is also a little chuckle from Gaga during a following mic movement.

I understand that is important for some to insist that Lady Gaga wasn't live during SNL but they really should abandon that attack since they are only succeeding in making themselves look foolish.

 

Just watched the first song again. Yep, still lip sync. You can tell in the verse before the second chorus…her lips and the sound aren’t matching very well. As for the “what’s up, snl” shout out being proof…uh, that was lip synced too. I’m not saying she was synced to the album version…just a prerecorded version.

I don’t really understand why her fans would care one way or the other. She’s a pop performer who places style before substance in her live performances. We’re talking about a person who wore an outfit made of meat, after all.

 

I'm not seeing the moments you're talking about in the second verse. Which lyrics specifically do not match?

And how do you explain the off-mic moments with the mic stand-holding dancers? Was that all perfectly timed to tape?

 

Often the lip synching people see is actually their own set up having a very slight delay between audio and video.

 

Nope. Watched it on my teevee and again on youtube. Same.

 

thanx for the heads up, found it on YouTube. Howard is just...such an underrated interviewer....great as always.
she talks about Zappa's house, being in Zeppelin cover band at 19, sang a little 'Black Dog' on spot, pu*sy glue (~).
oh, she does talk about exactly the thing you guys were arguing about above...let's put that to bed now.

 

I really enjoy A Night to Remember. The music is very good and Lauper's vocals are really strong. It should have sold much better than it did.

 

MP3? If so, it's overpriced.

 

Joanne is poorly recorded. It's flat and distorts. There's no need to crush the dynamics and over blown the volume so it distorts.

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Agreed. It was industry politics that stood in the way of that record.