Rolling Stones Blue and Lonesome vinyl or cd?

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  1. telepicker97

    telepicker97 Got Any Gum?

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    He meant "go ahead and get the vinyl, it sounds way better..."
     
  2. Jam757

    Jam757 Forum Resident

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    That would be similar to Death Magnetic and a few others I can think of. Made for ear buds....great :rolleyes:
     
  3. MRamble

    MRamble Forum Resident

    I thought I was the only one! Same here. The vinyl, to me, emphasizes the issues with the mastering and almost seems counter-productive. Listening to the CD in the car was a way better experience...it seemed to match the quality of the sound better.
     
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  4. MRamble

    MRamble Forum Resident

    Mick is the driving force in post-production and no doubt he wanted the mix to compete with most pop music out there: played straight out of people's phones/tablets etc.
     
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  5. Jam757

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    Which brings me back to ownership of the problem by the artists themselves. Also, if you are going to do that at the very least release a fine sounding vinyl option for those that are laying down their hard earned cash for it. Or how about at DR13 CD for those who don't like horribly compressed music? The dark ages of music 1998-present...
     
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  6. elvismcdouglas

    elvismcdouglas Forum Resident

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    Are your vinyl copies EU (Polydor) or US (Interscope)? Did you get a download card in either?
     
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  7. ZenArcher

    ZenArcher Senior Member

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    Enjoying this very much! First signs of life from the Stones is years. The sound is unfortunate but in no way ruins the experience. I wish they had done their best to recreate the setup used for many of the original recordings, and come by the vintage sound honestly.

    But, I'd rather have good music mastered badly than an audiophile snooze fest any day.
     
  8. andy75

    andy75 Forum Resident

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    When I listened the second time I lowered the treble and added some bass. I never do that, but that made it sound a little bit softer on my ears!
     
  9. Coricama

    Coricama Classic Rocker

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    My wife and I drove to Disney and back this weekend, so I haven't had the chance to get vinyl or CD. I downloaded the MP3 on my wife's phone and listened on the stock Ford stereo. From what I'm reading on here, that's probably as good as its going to sound, which wasn't unlistenable. Maybe it is indeed mastered for a lossy format to be played on less than audiophile equipment? I enjoyed the heck out of the album none the less.
     
  10. Peachy

    Peachy Forum Resident

    This album gets better with each play. As real as the Stones have ever been. Great tribute to their influences. Honest!
     
  11. SNDVSN

    SNDVSN Forum Resident

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    The vinyl in UK stores has a download included.
     
  12. Ephi82

    Ephi82 Still have two ears working

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    After playing Blue and Lonesome today on cd, i pulled out the Chess London Sessions with Howling Wolf, which is also on cd.

    This is what Blue and Lonesome could have sounded like.

    In 1971, Wolf, Watts, Wyman, Ringo, Clapton, Sumlin, Winwood, Ian Stewart and others got together in Olympic Studios, and Glyn Johns recorded 13 blues tunes. CD mastered by Phil Fulginetti.

    It blows my mind that the sound of recordings has declined so much in recent times.

    Im done buying "new"CDs, unless there is clear evidence they are mastered correctly. I hate the idea that I somewhat blindly gave Jagger and Richards $11.38 for a poor musical product.
     
  13. I'm not a huge fan of the sound of this record but to me, it seems like this is the way they recorded the music and not just a badly mastered record. It apparently was a sound choice.
     
  14. This Heat

    This Heat Forum Resident

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    I'll try this but I hate turning on my tone controls.
     
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  15. Deuce66

    Deuce66 Senior Member

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    Exactly the mastering isn't that bad, it's the recording and the sound of it that seems to be the real issue, given the budget a band like this has to work with I have to assume that the end result is exactly what they wanted.
     
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  16. tkl7

    tkl7 Agent Provocateur

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    Meant to sound overdriven, methinks.
     
  17. WhoDaresWins

    WhoDaresWins Forum Resident

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    I agree, this may be one of the last new releases from the band and the end product was probably meant to be heard that way. I highly doubt the mastering was done unintentionally upfront.
     
  18. Tommyboy

    Tommyboy Senior Member

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    There is no mention of Marcussen's name on my vinyl copy. It mentions that it was mastered by Ron McMaster.
     
  19. InStepWithTheStars

    InStepWithTheStars It's a miracle, let it alter you

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    Been listening to it and it's really enjoyable. I don't think I like it as much as A Bigger Bang, but I'm not as much a fan of blues as I am of rock and roll. At any rate, it's probably my favorite blues album. Well-chosen covers, and extremely well performed. The mastering is an improvement over the 2009 remasters (and over A Bigger Bang for that matter). I like the over-driven sound of the album, grungy and distorted like an old garage record, although I wish they'd just added some analog distortion over it rather than hand it over to Marcussen, of whose work I've yet to find one that satisfied me. Still, it's a step in the right direction, I guess. All in all while I wouldn't put it in my top five, it's definitely a solid album and shows that the Stones haven't lost their mojo.

    However, it doesn't feature a band member who died 46 years ago so my final verdict is a 0/10 - absolutely worthless, not even worth expending the energy to consider thinking about. Completely useless waste of time and space.

    :rolleyes: :winkgrin:
     
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  20. rstamberg

    rstamberg Senior Member

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    Wha?
     
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  21. Jam757

    Jam757 Forum Resident

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    Not sure if I'm going to buy that it was a "sound choice" yet. I think it is an industry wide sound choice and a very poor one at that. Releasing an overly loud, squashed to hell CD, is one lousy choice. I may never hear the CD and hope to at least get the download card with the vinyl. I will reserve my final judgement until I hear it but this is getting slammed pretty hard by many folks and with a DR7 rating my hope is waning.
     
  22. MRamble

    MRamble Forum Resident

    No doubt Mick had a specific sound in mind. The best parts of the sound is that it's dirty and sounds like it was recorded in a smokey juke joint in the fifties. Mick (or Don Was?) got that part right. But it's still got a harshness that is more 2016 than it is 1950. Charlie's snare is almost unrecognizable. I don't think it's a coincidence that Mick went this route....this is the guy after all who will always go mainstream/pop when given the chance. He's proven that many times in the last 20 years in and out of the Stones.
     
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  23. ibanez_ax

    ibanez_ax Forum Resident

    Shoulda been mono.
     
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  24. tkl7

    tkl7 Agent Provocateur

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    It was clearly a sound choice. It was meant to sound like an old 1950s blues record.
     
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  25. Classicrock

    Classicrock Senior Member

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    Let's face it. You can't get decent sound from a major artist any more (but Elton's last on vinyl is actually rather good). With all the publicity about the loudness wars it's incredible that this goes over industry people and artists heads. The recent Keith Richards album sounded OK on vinyl so I may risk this. Keep the crap mastering for MP3 downloads please. There is no reason to ruin CDs as they are not used for portable play or by radio stations any more.
     
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