Predicting the Movie Hits and Bombs of 2016

Discussion in 'Visual Arts' started by Vidiot, Dec 18, 2015.

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  1. The Panda

    The Panda Forum Mutant

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    It took a loooonnnngggg time for Hollywood to get that.
    Wearing tight dresses and heels only will take you so far. I'm sure she has enough cash to keep her happy until she shuffles off the globe.
     
  2. shokhead

    shokhead Head shok and you still don't what it is. HA!

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  3. The Panda

    The Panda Forum Mutant

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  4. shokhead

    shokhead Head shok and you still don't what it is. HA!

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    Maybe someone can post what she made and what her last 3 or 4 movies have made.
     
  5. Bryan

    Bryan Starman Jr.

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    Yes, people wanted to see those beloved characters from the original Star Wars films.

    Also, I don't know how much this will affect box office take, but I don't know if Joe and Jane Sixpack really understand where R1 fits into the existing Star Wars timeline, and that it's not a "main" film in the series. Heck, even in this thread people have said they weren't clear on it.
     
  6. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits, Abbie & Mitzi: Best Dogs Ever

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    Hey, I'm a "Star Wars" fanboy and I don't know much about "R1"!

    Though that's by design. I've consciously avoided learning anything about it, as I want to go into it as fresh as can be.

    Even so, I don't care as much as I would if it was a "real 'Star Wars' movie". I'm sure it'll be fun but I'm not half as invested/excited about it as I am about "E8".

    It is a good question to wonder how many people understand it's a spinoff and not a "chapter". One would think the absence of "Episode VIII" would tell them it doesn't continue the chronology from "Force Awakens", but one shouldn't assume the average moviegoer pays that much attention.

    Part of me fears we'll see "'Star Wars' fatigue" before long:

    "Force Awakens" 2015
    "R1" 2016
    "E8" 2017
    Han Solo spinoff 2018

    Seems like a lot.

    On the other hand, Marvel cranks out 2-3 movies a year and those make obs and gobs of money, so why can't the "Star Wars" universe prosper with 1 movie/year?
     
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  7. Bryan

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    True, though I wonder if Disney will eventually get greedy and decide to try two Star Wars movies in one year...
     
  8. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits, Abbie & Mitzi: Best Dogs Ever

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    IIRC, they were on a path to do that with the original release date of "E8". It was supposed to come out May 2017, so that would've meant "R1" and "E8" out within six months of each other! :eek:
     
  9. The Panda

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    I could see that. A stand alone in May, one in the series in december
     
  10. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits, Abbie & Mitzi: Best Dogs Ever

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    I think one per year is an iffy idea, so I think two per year would definitely threaten oversaturation.

    I know I compared the "Star Wars" situation to Marvel, but I'm skeptical that audiences would view it the same way. I think most people easily differentiate between various Marvel characters but they lump "Star Wars" in as one single entity.

    So while there's no logical reason "R1" should be seen the same as "Force Awakens" or the Han Solo movie, I think all will get that unilateral "Star Wars" position and won't be seen as unique entities ala the Marvel flicks...
     
  11. Maggie

    Maggie like a walking, talking art show

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    Indeed. Sandra Bullock is a different, much more charismatic, kind of actor. She has the star quality that Jennifer Aniston doesn't, although I think Aniston is a fine actor.
     
  12. Hexwood

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    I didn't know he had colon cancer. It's good to know he's doing well.
     
  13. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits, Abbie & Mitzi: Best Dogs Ever

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    Agree. My point simply intended to convey that 50 isn't the death knell it used to be for women.

    It's still tough for them to get "leading lady" parts past 40, so I don't claim the age standards are gone, but I think they've changed a lot.

    People just "age better" than they did in the past. Some of that's better diet, some of that's better exercise, some of that's just better health consciousness - and in Hollywood, some of it's better plastic surgery! :D

    But the average 50-year-old in 2016 looks way younger than the average 50-year-0ld in 1966, methinks...
     
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  14. shokhead

    shokhead Head shok and you still don't what it is. HA!

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    Methinks you are right.
     
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  15. sunspot42

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    Definitely. Botox and fillers are probably responsible for 2/3rds of that. And retinoids.
     
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  16. ohnothimagen

    ohnothimagen "Live music is better!"

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    That's gotta be part of it, then, although even up here in Canuckleheadland last year you couldn't swing a dead Jawa without hitting a Force Awakens advert...in the last couple of weeks they've started hyping Rogue One a bit more (mainly on the kids' channels it seems, which my two kids watch a lot of) but still not as much as for Episode 7. I'm disappointed, kind of, but glad as well, because IMO the Force Awakens hype was excessive to the max. Paid off, though, I s'pose...
     
  17. Vidiot

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    It only seems like they put out that many films. Some of those are Fox films or Sony films that Marvel doesn't exactly control. Marvel has released three films in one year -- this year, they had Captain America: Civil War and Dr. Strange -- but Fox released Deadpool and X-Men: Apocalypse. Marvel really, really wishes they had the rights to the characters owned by Fox.

    I think Disney is painfully aware that they run the risk of stretching everything too thin. They already control a) all the Disney characters, b) all the Muppet characters, c) all the Pixar films, and d) all the Lucasfilm characters. With all those franchises bouncing back in forth, it's conceivable that they could open a Disney cartoon, a live-action Disney film, and a Star Wars film in the same week.

    Trust me, once you hit your 40s, you need all the makeup, careful lighting, and post-production defocus/skin-smoothing available. Especially at 50+. The film I'm doing right now requires me to add a little shadow to hide a bald spot on the back of the lead actor's head. It's subtle, but they appreciate this kind of stuff.

    A friend of mine who knows a top LA plastic surgeon says that 10 years ago, his patients were 90% women. Now, it's about 60% women and 40% men... and the male clientage is going up. Everybody who can afford it gets a little nip and tuck here and there.
     
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  18. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    I'll be giving the latest Stars Wars film a big miss ( don't think that will effect the "bomb " result though;) ). The last SW movie was appalling. In Europe practically every film magazine has Star Wars on the cover( just means I don't buy them)this month.
     
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  19. shokhead

    shokhead Head shok and you still don't what it is. HA!

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  20. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits, Abbie & Mitzi: Best Dogs Ever

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    In Hollywood? Maybe.

    In the general population? Doubt it - I don't think that many people are getting work done.

    I think the radical decline of smoking is responsible for a lot of it, and people just generally are more health-conscious... :shrug:
     
  21. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits, Abbie & Mitzi: Best Dogs Ever

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    :eek:

    "Force Awakens" was awesome - really a wonderful kickstart to the new series.

    I can barely imagine a better "new chapter" in the series...
     
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  22. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits, Abbie & Mitzi: Best Dogs Ever

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    Posted in wrong thread? Not sure what any of this has to do with movies! :confused:
     
  23. R. Totale

    R. Totale The Voice of Reason

    A week with only two broadcast stations (Fox and ABC) and no tivo has taught me she does a ton of ads for beauty products, too. She probably doesn't need movie money and just does them to, you know, hone her art - and because the ones she chooses have such important stories to tell.
     
  24. The Panda

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    :laugh::shh:
    She has a great PR group. When I used to go on Yahoo long ago, they would put useless stories on there at a steady pace, but not overexposed like the porn-family. "Jen loves Children", "Jen eager about next film", "Jen considering nude scene," Jen rocks new pants suit."
     
  25. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    DVD was cheap, only redeemable thing about it.
     
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