Who was hurt the most by not being in the Monterey Pop movie?

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  1. qwerty

    qwerty A resident of the SH_Forums.

    What did Crosby say?
     
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  2. he put up part of the money he should have played his sound at the time might have gone over well
     
  3. Hall Cat

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    The Association
     
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  4. perplexed

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    He went on a rant about the JFK assassination and the Warren Commission report
     
  5. Hey Vinyl Man

    Hey Vinyl Man Another bloody Yank down under...

    Laura Nyro, because the rumors that she was booed off the stage (she wasn't) dogged her for the rest of her life. Including her performance in the movie would have provided documentation of the polite-at-worst reception she really did receive. (I believe D.A. Pennebaker later said he watched all the footage and the closest he could hear to a "boo" was someone yelling "Beautiful".)

    As for the Beach Boys, even if they had just done their old hits, I wonder would the audience - mostly high school students in 1963-64 - have enjoyed the trip down memory lane? We'll never know, but remember Sha Na Na was well-received at Woodstock!
     
  6. pool_of_tears

    pool_of_tears Searching For Simplicity

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    That's what happens when more than one band member isn't clear headed
     
  7. LC4O

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    sorry but the Beach Boys on stage ? they are nothing special....they were a Pop singles
    band.. a hit singles band only... most of his albuns have only 24 minutes (1964-1970)
    Pet Sounds is a great album an exception
     
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  8. Adam9

    Adam9 Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй.

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    But as the liner notes to the Live Kinks say (something like) "they were not missed, for they were there in spirit".
    I guess that's the best their PR could do, given their ban on touring the U.S. at the time.
     
  9. Jose Jones

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    How many people actually saw the Monterey Pop movie when it was released?
     
  10. Revolver

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    I'd have to say Moby Grape did. They had just released their debut album and it was a monster. Columbia did them no favors by simultaneously releasing 5 singles which contained 10 of the album tracks on it and must have really confused buyers. I think a successful performance at Monterey might have gotten that album the recognition it deserved and who knows what might have come from that.
     
  11. Jose Jones

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    If they really wanted to have played Monterey, they could have. Nobody (besides Ravi Shankar) was getting paid to play there anyway. Can a musician's union ban someone for playing for free?
     
  12. JozefK

    JozefK Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I don't really know. It was nowhere near as successful as Woodstock. However I get the impression it was more widely seen than Dylan's Don't Look Back, from the same director. It gave a lot of people in America their first view of Jimi Hendrix.
     
  13. JozefK

    JozefK Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    This is essentially my view, although being with Matthew Katz and that 5 single release may have doomed their career beyond any salvaging.
     
  14. mbrownp1

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    Sorry but this is an extremely misguided post for many reasons, foremost of which is the fact that, from 1971-1975, they were incredibly good live. Tight, sharp, and very contemporary sounding, even with the new arrangements of the old tunes. That's a fact jack.

    See: In Concert
     
  15. supermd

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    They would have played their newest songs ("God Only Knows," "Good Vibrations," "Heroes and Villains," and even "The Letter" (assuming they would have duplicated their Hawaii setlist)). That would have gone over well, especially because those Hawaii re-arrangements were soooo chill. Different vibe for the live versions that year. I think it would have gone over well at worst, great at best.
     
  16. telepicker97

    telepicker97 Got Any Gum?

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    Grateful Dead
     
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  17. maui jim

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    The hippies(Adler and Phillips) didn't want surf music. Look who they booked instead, Jimi and The Who
    It is start of a new era, fully bloomed in Woodstock
     
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  18. supermd

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    None of the songs listed in the post you replied to are surf music.
     
  19. keifspoon

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    The Who's amps. :mad:
     
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  20. supermd

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    This would have fit right in at the festival.

     
  21. Chuckee

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    The film wasn't shown at all until December 26, 1968 and I think most people saw it later on TV. Not sure being in the film would have had much of an impact at the time. I think a lot of bands gained fans from the people there, word of mouth after word and I'm sure it was written about in the rock magazines. Of course the film has helped secure the legacy of many of these bands over the long haul.
     
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  22. statcat

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    Did it exactly "help" anyone? I think the only performance that is commonly known is Jimi Hendrix and the guitar fire bit became iconic but who really in general pays attention to the rest of it? I don't see people talking about the Who and Jefferson Airplane or something. Do people talk about Eric Burdon's Monterey song? Not really. Woodstock overshadowed Monterey and made it a footnote unfortunately.
     
  23. george nadara

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    None other than Clive Davis was present. He discusses how the festival changed him in his second autobiography.
     
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  24. 2141

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    At that time they did have Good Vibrations on the radio, from Pet Sounds era. Not exactly a passe record. I don't think they were wearing their stripped shirts anymore, either ;-) I'm sure they would have been fine.
     
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  25. statcat

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    Outside of some silent film, photos and a recording of the Country Joe and the Fish set, nothing exists. It had a more interesting lineup to me. I wish it was filmed or recorded but then I wish all the stuff at the Avalon and Fillmore was too.
     
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