I'd like to thank everyone that recommended the japanese 25 8p CDs, they are great. I'm still looking for Sandinista! My only dissapointment was Give em enough rope, any suggestions for a good sounding CD? Thanks. Edit: Also, Can anybody confirm that the 42・8P-5061~2 and ESCA 5268~9 pressings of Sandinista share the same mastering?
The Japan for USA of Sandanista! sounds damn good, IMO. It's a different mastering than the 42·8P. IMO, the 25·8P as good as it gets for that album on CD.
Thanks George. Which one do you prefer? I was afraid somebody would say that. So weird. Both albums, before and after Rope, sound great.
Thanks again and yeap, I was afraid you'd say that. Can somebody share the peak levels for Sandinista! ESCA 5268~9? These are some of the peak levels for 42・8P-5061~2 I found posted in the forum: Disc 1: Track 1 01 - The Magnificent Seven.wav Peak level 100.0 % Track 2 02 - Hitsville U.K..wav Peak level 100.0 % Track 3 03 - Junco Partner.wav Peak level 100.0 % Track 4 04 - Ivan Meets G.I. Joe.wav Peak level 97.7 % Track 5 05 - The Leader.wav Peak level 97.7 % Track 6 06 - Something About England.wav Peak level 97.7 % Track 7 07 - Rebel Waltz.wav Peak level 97.7 % Track 8 08 - Look Here.wav Peak level 96.2 % Track 9 09 - The Crooked Beat.wav Peak level 97.7 % Track 10 Peak level 97.7 % Track 11 Peak level 95.5 % Track 12 Peak level 97.7 % ... Regards.
There's a European release of Black Market Clash on CD from 1991, is that the same mastering as the Japanese? It's Columbia 468763 2. As for the 25-8P, IMO on London Calling it's worth seeking out (and I assume the rest are too given the comments here, I just haven't heard them myself). I was using a very good needledrop of a UK first press as my go to digital copy of London Calling for years, and when I heard the 25-8P I was shocked at how much better it was. More clarity, better low end, at least as much energy if not more, and totally crankable. I've heard the 1999, 2004 deluxe, and 2013 hi-res versions and the needledrop had bested all of those. Then the 25-8P took the needledrop behind a shed and spanked it. An essential CD for any Clash fan.
For "Black Market Clash" ? No, all releases (Canada, UK and Japan) have the same track list as the original EP I have the Japanese Black Market Clash Cd, I do not think that the master is different from the cd made in the UK.
I thought the original Black Market UK EP, had a different mix of Bank Robber and Armigideon Time that the latter released Black Market US CD.
I have this one, made in Austria. When I play Armagideon Time, after the introduction, the music just explodes out of my speakers.
If it helps, here's the peak levels for my Austrian CD: Track 1 Peak level 72.6 % Track 2 Peak level 82.3 % Track 3 Peak level 82.2 % Track 4 Peak level 89.4 % Track 5 Peak level 77.8 % Track 6 Peak level 89.9 % Track 7 Peak level 98.4 % Track 8 Peak level 98.5 % Track 9 Peak level 91.3 %
Black Market Clash cd or Super Black Market Clash cd? As far as I am aware "Black Market Clash" was not published in cd in the United States. Only in Canada, UK and Japan have had this Ep in Cd format. The Bank Robber and Armigideon Time versions in "Super Black Market Clash" are different. But the version in "Black Market Clash" is the same in the relese in cd that the version of the original US Ep Black Market Clash is totally different from Super Black Market Clash, two opposing worlds
The original BMC was a US EP and was not released in the UK. Yes, a few of the tracks from the original 1980 EP were not included on the SBMC release in 1993, mainly because they were already readily available on other releases at the time. The only two EP tracks that have not subsequently appeared elsewhere are the remixed version of the "Pressure Drop" b-side and the unique mashup edit of "Bankrobber/Robber Dub". The full length "Robber Dub" was not released until SBMC and has never appeared anywhere else.
Again, there was no "original" UK BMC. "Armagideon Time" is the same mix as the original single double a-side and this same mix has appeared everywhere else. "Bankrobber" is the same mix as the original single but, as I noted already, is present on BMC in a mashup with the at-the-time unreleased "Robber Dub", which makes it a unique version not available anywhere else.
Thanks George! I'm sure it's the same master of the cd made in UK. In fact in the credits of manufacture you can find this information: Phonographic Copyright (p) - Sony Music Entertainment (UK) Ltd. Copyright (c) - Sony Music Entertainment (UK) Ltd. Manufactured By - Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) Inc. Record Company - Epic / Sony Records I must check out my Japanese CD. This cd has an incredibly good sound. It is one of my most appreciated pieces from my collection of The Clash. Thanks again for your time and the post with the information of the UK cd Note: Still in the search of the London Calling 25-8P, it is becoming more difficult to find one in good condition and with good price
Black Market Clash was never released on vinyl in the UK, although it was freely available on import. The "Nu Disk" 10" was a US release, it was also released as a conventional 12" album in Canada. Super Black Market Clash was released in the UK however as a 3 x 10"
I finally received Sandinista! (ESCA 5268~9) and have time to compare. For some songs I prefer the original CD mastering. As you said, the Japan for USA sounds damn good already. IMHO, for those seeking the best sounding clash CDs, if you have the original Sandinista! CD you are already set, especially considering how difficult and expensive is to obtain a copy of the Japanese CDs these days. If you really want to compare (like me), remember that the 42 8P-5061~2 and ESCA 5268~9 share the same mastering and the latter can be found for a lot less pesos. The 25 8P of the S/T album is a sonic marvel, same as London Calling. Give em enough rope sounds below average in any CD version I have (in comparison with the other clash albums). My research here in the forums indicate that the sound signature may be related to the album production. A shame really. My biggest surprise and, at the moment my favor Clash album (EP), is the original 1991 Black market clash. Highly recommended for both, music content and sound attributes (assuming you like the 25-8P albums). Cheers.
