Let's Talk "Classic American Rock 'n' Roll" 1951 - 1963! Share Your Knowledge And Love of The Music.

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  1. hodgo

    hodgo Tea Making Gort (Yorkshire Branch) Staff Thread Starter

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    Ok fellas let’s talk about "Classic American Rock ‘n’ Roll" between 1951 & 1963.

    Why those years?.........

    The first Rock ‘n Roll Record was arguably Jackie Brenston’s “Rocket 88”, backed up by Ike Turner and his Rhythm Kings and released on the Chess label in 1951.



    It seemed right to end with 1963, afterall this is the year that everything changed forever when a certain beat combo from Liverpool spearheaded a whole new musical revolution, this was inspired largely by the classic Rock 'n' Roll that was made between those years 1951 & 1963

    So fill yer boots guys and remember please keep it friendly.
     
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  2. hodgo

    hodgo Tea Making Gort (Yorkshire Branch) Staff Thread Starter

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    So let's start with the question, are their any other contenders for the title of first Rock 'n Roll Record? I'll throw in an even earlier contender, released on DeLuxe Records in 1947 this was Roy Brown's classic "Good Rockin' Tonight", it was later covered by Wynonie Harris who it was originally offered to and by Elvis at Sun records in 1954.



    Origins of Rock 'n' Roll
     
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  3. Marzz

    Marzz Forum Resident

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    How about Sister Rosetta from 1944? Pushing it perhaps?

    (Sister Rosetta Tharpe - Strange Things Happening Everyday - 1944)
     
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  4. hodgo

    hodgo Tea Making Gort (Yorkshire Branch) Staff Thread Starter

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    Sister Rosetta, what a great choice. She was so influential in the Blues and Rock 'n' Roll fields and yet hardly anyone outside of we obsessives has ever heard of her.
     
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  5. Freedom Rider

    Freedom Rider Senior Member

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    Another contender:

    This sounds a lot like rock'n'roll to me.:thumbsup:
     
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  6. hodgo

    hodgo Tea Making Gort (Yorkshire Branch) Staff Thread Starter

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    Fabulous song, I was only listening to it a couple of nights ago on disc one of that very box, "Atlantic Rhythm & Blues 1947-1974" . For those that don't own this set it's an essential collection full of classic R&B including, Ray Charles, Big Joe Turner, Ruth Brown, The Coasters and many more. The great thing about this set is that all the discs can be bought individually and at reasonale prices.
     
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  7. ampmods

    ampmods Forum Resident

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    And of course Fats Domino "The Fat Man" from 1949.
     
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  8. hodgo

    hodgo Tea Making Gort (Yorkshire Branch) Staff Thread Starter

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    My Favourite Fat's compilation mastered by the one and only "Boppin" Bob Jones......

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  9. nopedals

    nopedals Forum Resident

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    Without doing a bunch of research, to me the first indisputably rock and roll record was Gee by the Crows. In any event, the guitar solo by Tiny Grimes is the first iconic rock and roll guitar solo.

    Early Beatles was still rock and roll. They didn't kill it until they started doing the guru and drug songs circa 1967. So maybe 1953 to 1966.
     
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  10. ampmods

    ampmods Forum Resident

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    I love Fats Domino. What's great about him to me is that his records are so joyful. Lyrically he was often funny too. I think my favorite line from a Fats Domino song is from "I'm Ready" - 'talkin' on the phone is not my speed / don't send me no letter 'cause I can't read.' haha.
     
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  11. dance_hall_keeper

    dance_hall_keeper Forum Resident

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    Does Dot Wop count?
    If so, allegedly the first song that was referred to as this genre:

    "When You Dance" - The Turbans, 1955.
     
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  12. hodgo

    hodgo Tea Making Gort (Yorkshire Branch) Staff Thread Starter

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    Yes of course Doo Wop counts, Rock 'n' Roll is a stew containing many ingredients and Doo Wop is very tasty one indeed.
     
    hodgo, Jun 28, 2017
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  13. dance_hall_keeper

    dance_hall_keeper Forum Resident

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    Saweeeeeet!
    Before they were The Coasters, they were:

    "Smokey Joe's Cafe" - The Robins 1955, written by the legendary pair of
    Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller.
    I can almost dance to this!
     
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  14. Freedom Rider

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    Another 1949 classic!
     
    Freedom Rider, Jun 28, 2017
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  15. ShockControl

    ShockControl Bon Vivant and Raconteur!

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    Sam Butera and the Witnesses, with Louis Prima.

     
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  16. ShockControl

    ShockControl Bon Vivant and Raconteur!

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    Louis and Keely, with Sam Butera and the Witnesses.

     
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  17. hodgo

    hodgo Tea Making Gort (Yorkshire Branch) Staff Thread Starter

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    hodgo, Jun 28, 2017
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  18. dance_hall_keeper

    dance_hall_keeper Forum Resident

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    I'm lucky enough to own the three Doo Wop box sets from Rhino.
    They're great.
     
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  19. qwerty

    qwerty A resident of the SH_Forums.

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    How about some of Big Danny Oliver - Sapphire (1958)

     
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  20. hodgo

    hodgo Tea Making Gort (Yorkshire Branch) Staff Thread Starter

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    For anyone that loves the fun soulfoul, jumping, rock 'n' roll of the Coasters, this 1992 Rhino compilation is without doubt the best place to start......

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  21. DEAN OF ROCK

    DEAN OF ROCK Senior Member

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    Great thread!
    Chuck Berry and Sun Elvis say hello!
     
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  22. BrutandCharisma

    BrutandCharisma Forum Resident

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    I actually saw Sam Butera and the Witnesses and Keely Smith at the old Desert Inn in Vegas about 25 years ago. My buddy and I were the youngest people in the place by a solid 30 years but we didn't care. We wanted to see a couple of legends.

    The best part? Don Rickles and his wife were at the next table. 2 of the sweetest people I ever met. Rickles was very, very funny but incredibly nice to us. Bought us drinks and of course we got the full-on "Rickles treatment" after the show. God, it was funny.

    What a night.
     
    BrutandCharisma, Jun 28, 2017
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  23. rjp

    rjp Senior Member

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    my knowledge pre-beatles is weak, to say the least :(
     
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  24. John B Good

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    I didn't grow up on it (didn't really start listening to radio until early 6os, and altho I inherited a few 45s from my older brother (RAVE ON for one), I have developed the taste, and in the cd era, was able to build up a decent collection.

    I think one of its appeals (the 50s) is the simple arrangements. Although I like mid60s onward, it tends to much more produced, more instruments, more 'fill' to the sounds. And lyrically, a whole other story...

    One track I was obsessed with for a long time is 'Til I Kissed You. That speaks to the lyrical simplicity, and the clarity of each instrument in the mix. And that "Uh huh" and mmm

     
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  25. Ginger Ale

    Ginger Ale Snackophile

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    I loved The Everly Brothers almost as much as I loved Orbison and Elvis. This era of music reminds me of happy, happy times....even something basically as 'down' as Only The Lonely, which belies its heartache with an upbeat tempo and O's exquisite vocals.

     
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