The greatest consumer cassette tape deck ever produced?*

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Cowboy Kim, Feb 3, 2017.

  1. Doug Sclar

    Doug Sclar Forum Legend

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    LOL. And another reason some pro machines use the same head for the repro and record heads is because when you do punches you want the sound from the record head, which is acting as a play head for the already recorded tracks, to sound as good as the play head.

    This is especially true if you're doing bounces. In that case you have to use the record head for playback, or the bounced track would be out of sync. That's why many pro machines have sync outputs, which is basically playback electronics for the record head.
     
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  2. JohnO

    JohnO Senior Member

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    Also, and rather back to cassette, all the little "Portastudio" 4-track cassette recorder/mixers had only a single rec/play head, to stay in sync and to do bounces (with careful track selections), and sounded fine (for cassette) at pure playback. A fair number of commercial releases, or parts, were recorded on those.
     
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  3. DRM

    DRM Forum Resident

    I like the idea of a super VHS machine being able to mix/edit music. Because it's tape and because it's analog.

    I'm much less interested in VHS machines for the video aspect.

    I, for some good or bad reason...still think that analog recording/mixing hasn't breathed its last gasp.

    Yet, few know how to do it the "old" way, like George Martin and team did it in the Sixties.

    And reel to reel is expensive and cutting/splicing tape is a dying art.

    So, that's out of my league.

    I bought the following products recently...toward the goal of mixing/recording...analog music.

    I'm not sure if this will ever amount to anything.



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  4. GuildX700

    GuildX700 Forum Resident

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    I used my Sony HI FI VHS VCR with flying erase head for some audio taping, but I was never blown away by the audio results so I stopped and went back to my high end cassette decks.
     
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  5. GuildX700

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    As an aside, my brother, who was always broke, somehow ponied up enough money for JVC's very best S-VHS deck back in the day. Well, sadly it was plagued by issues and was more often than not in for repair. I think it had issues with failing micro switches. I was interested to use it for audio taping, but I never got my hands on it to try as it was always in the shop.
     
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  6. DRM

    DRM Forum Resident

    I'm still dreaming...that there could someday be an all in one analog unit like this one (modernized and updated compared to the one below) that could record/mix/master analog tape, producing great analog results. Or a comparable cassette mixer/master recorder.

    But maybe that time has passed.

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  7. GuildX700

    GuildX700 Forum Resident

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    what I would dream for would be a new top of the line 3 head cassette deck with Dolby S HX PRO, mic inputs, pitch control, auto bias/azimuth, double speed recording/playback ability with 4 track ability and pan fades for the 4 channels. Any have it come in under $1400 MSRP.
     
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  8. DRM

    DRM Forum Resident

    Yes to multi-track and panning capability.

    With an analog mixer and analog effects/compression, etc...it would really be something.
     
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  9. Chris Schoen

    Chris Schoen Rock 'n Roll !!!

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    I love my 3 head Denon DRS-810.
     
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  10. Alan2

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    The Dragon nwas always regarded as the Rolls Royce of cassette players, back in the day. It had a price to match -- retail around £1500, in the 1980s.
     
  11. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    How about this Aiwa deck?

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  12. Dan C

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    Actually a surprising amount of production was done on S-VHS. Lots of industrial video, weddings, smaller TV stations, etc. A lot of schools shot their football game "film" on S-VHS as real 16mm film was phased out. There was a relatively robust market for it.

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  13. sunspot42

    sunspot42 Forum Resident

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    But would people on an S-VHS budget have the money for a high-end S-VHS VCR like that edit deck?

    Maybe it was designed for services where people would rent an edit bay by the hour...
     
  14. Alan2

    Alan2 Forum Resident

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    Looks very fine. I had an Aiwa budget price deck, and I could get surprisingly good results with it.
     
  15. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    It was the budget division for Sony and was shut down a number of years ago ...
     
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  16. Alan2

    Alan2 Forum Resident

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    Interesting - I didn't know that.
     
  17. GuildX700

    GuildX700 Forum Resident

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    I have one, and many folks, reviewers, testers and such actually claim it to be THE best ever cassette deck.

    After all the decks I've used, owned and been able to listen to and do direct comparisons with, I would have to agree, it is THE benchmark in a Dolby S cassette deck, and arguably the last greatest deck ever sold.

    Check out those massive back mounted power transformers!

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  18. McLover

    McLover Senior Member

    They made what you want. Problem is for you, it's not HiFi audio in analog. It's digital. It's called an Alesis ADAT. PITA format and high maintenance. Forget about parts support, and service support is getting nearly non existent. Easier to keep an old real pro studio machine running than one of these, a lot more reliable.
     
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  19. FJC1966

    FJC1966 The Prestonian

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    Had one of these bad boys in the late 1990's....stunning sound with TDK Type IV cassettes and Dolby HX Pro S NR


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  20. Thorensman

    Thorensman Forum Resident

    I may be able to shed light on lack of comparability with other decks ,
    The heads,
    Nakamichi,s heads can take higher levels than most decks whose cheaper heads saturate quicker ,
    The result is a congested sound,
    If recorded lower it would be OK
     
  21. McGuy

    McGuy All Mc, all the time...

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    Only posting here because I’m actually looking for a Beocord 5500 in case anyone has one laying around...I have the 5000 which is great but won’t work with my remote and no auto reverse.
     
  22. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    Sony ES models are always a cut above the regular Sony models. I have 2 Sony ES CD changers ...
     
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  23. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    Nakamichi was the OEM for tape heads used by a number of cassette and open-reel deck manufacturers since 1948 but did not get into the cassette deck manufacturing until around 1973 ...
     
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  24. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    Did B&O ever make any cassette deck with auto-reverse?
     
  25. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    How about two cassette decks made by two venerable European audio manufacturers?

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