Simple Minds/New Gold Dream super deluxe set coming July 2016

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by morgan1098, Apr 12, 2016.

  1. Rgfinch

    Rgfinch King Rocky

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    Well disc 1 (2016 remaster of the original album) sounds rotten, painfully muted - does that count? Keep the 2002, or play the blu/dvd instead.

    Have heard a few very muted remasters coming out of "Abbey Road" lately.
     
  2. Stuart S

    Stuart S Back Jack

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    "Abbey Road" is just marketing now, it means nothing.
     
  3. Rgfinch

    Rgfinch King Rocky

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    Hence the " ".
     
  4. Rgfinch

    Rgfinch King Rocky

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    Spent a bit more time with this set lately. The dvd (2 channel tracks) is brighter and more upfront than any other version of NGD I heard before, and the remaining discs in the box are more muted than any previous versions. The contrast is just huge, very strange to think that nobody appeared to notice or care when putting this box together.
     
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  5. patient_ot

    patient_ot Senior Member

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    Weird. Which one do you prefer? The bright one or the muted one?
     
  6. Rgfinch

    Rgfinch King Rocky

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    Somewhere between the two - the 2003 remaster (and the SACD) sounded most tonally "right" to me.
     
  7. JeffMo

    JeffMo Format Agnostic

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    My favorite SM album and I've really enjoyed the bonus material in this super deluxe set.
     
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  8. Ken.e.

    Ken.e. Spinning music since...

    I like your profile picture of the Echo and the Bunnymen's new live vinyl release. I just go mine in the mail the other day.

    My favorite version of NGD is still my original gold vinyl. I thought that the box set was great and liked it's completeness but I listened to it once and then it found it's way on the shelf.
     
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  9. patient_ot

    patient_ot Senior Member

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    Hard to top that 2002/3 remastered CD IMHO. I have three other versions (not this box) and that one is my favorite. I don't have a multichannel system or an SACD player though, so I haven't checked out those versions.
     
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  10. JeffMo

    JeffMo Format Agnostic

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    I picked up that Bunnymen vinyl last week!

    Pull out the box for the BBC sessions and rarities. Fun to hear alternate versions of those great songs.
     
  11. Rgfinch

    Rgfinch King Rocky

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    SACD uses the same 2002/3 mastering I think - they sound very similar and don't use the extended versions on the DVDs.
     
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  12. JeffMo

    JeffMo Format Agnostic

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    Live version of "King is White.." shuffled on in the car last night. Had to turn it up!!
     
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  13. DTK

    DTK Forum Resident

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    I just bought the deluxe set on discount.
    I am not sure how often I will play it aside for the Alternative Mixes cd and the Radio Sessions cd; I've heard all the configurations of the album tracks so many times. BUT the packaging is excellent, the sound quality is excellent, the price is excellent :).
     
  14. DTK

    DTK Forum Resident

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    An interesting thing is the writing credits. Most songs credit Kerr/Burchill/Forbes/MacNeil, but in several different orders. No explanation is given for this - does anyone know why?
    Would a Forbes/Burchill/MacNeil/Kerr credit mean that Derek had most to do with the song and Jim least, for example.
    Also, strangely, Mick MacNeil has no credit on Someone Somewhere.
     
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  15. shadow blaster

    shadow blaster Forum Resident

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    That's interesting. Just checked my original vinyl pressing and the credits just say Words & Music by Simple Minds. Very weird that they would remove a writing credit from MacNeil.
     
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  16. I think that it depended on who brought in the rough material for them to work on it as a song.
     
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  17. DTK

    DTK Forum Resident

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    I thought so too. However, in that case these credits mean the band must have sat down recently and decided who contributed not only most, but also next-to-most, next-to-least and least to a song. Because the credits are different on almost every song. Very strange. Or it's just very sloppy editing.


    Someone Somewhere (Kerr/Forbes/Burchill)
    Colours Fly (Forbes/MacNeil/Kerr/Burchill)
    Promised You A Miracle (Forbes/MacNeil/Kerr/Burchill)
    Big Sleep (Forbes/MacNeil/Kerr/Burchill)
    Someone Up There (Forbes/Burchill/MacNeil/Kerr)
    New Gold Dream (Burchill/Forbes/Kerr/MacNeil)
    Glittering Prize (Forbes/MacNeil/Kerr/Burchill)
    Hunter And The Hunted (Burchill/Forbes/MacNeil/Kerr)
    King Is White (Forbes/MacNeil/Kerr/Burchill)
     
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  18. shadow blaster

    shadow blaster Forum Resident

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    Hard to make sense of this. So Kerr contributed to the instrumental Somebody up there, but MacNeil contributed nothing to Someone Somewhere?
     
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  19. DTK

    DTK Forum Resident

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    There were actually lyrics written to Somebody Up There, and vocals recorded, but they were not used on the album.
    That might explain it.
    But yes it's hard to believe Mick MacNeil contributed nothing to Someone Somewhere.
     
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  20. RTW

    RTW Forum Resident

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  21. DTK

    DTK Forum Resident

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  22. Rgfinch

    Rgfinch King Rocky

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    I thought the sound was pretty poor, flat and lifeless - not a patch on the 2003 mastering. Disappointed.
     
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  23. DTK

    DTK Forum Resident

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    Sounds good to me on headphones, but I haven't done any comparison.
     
  24. VeeDub

    VeeDub Senior Member

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    I don't think the proper album has ever (digitally) sounded worse - I prefer the original UK CD and the SACD (either SACD or redbook layer). However, the extant material that has been previously released sounds better here than on the lifeless "theme" CD singles or as bonus cuts on the X5 box (much too loud).
     
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  25. RTW

    RTW Forum Resident

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    Do Simple Minds themselves not have any say in their product quality?

    But otherwise I'd suggest Virgin have done a pretty good job of keeping the band canonized and available, and even if it's just the die hard fans buying this stuff over and over again, it does always seem to be fairly visible.

    I have none of the "extant material" because there's no definitive way to get it, except that I appear to be amassing a selection of early/mid Simple Minds 12" singles, so that's something.
     
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