Zappa: Uncle Meat CD 'Penalty' Tracks

Oh, I scored a mint copy of the Bizarre vinyl before Meat Light appeared. It kicked the Ryko cd straight into the cojones and then some!

 

I wondered that myself. Possibly because it's been stripped of its imposed digital gloss (i.e. 'lightened')?

 

Don't mind the sound of the Ryko at all, likely as I first heard and fell in love with that version

 

Don't mean to be pushy, but with all the great bonus material (besides the vinyl mix) Meat Light might be worth the step, honestly! But hey... Whatever floats the boat...

 

That's none of my business.

 

I bought it immediately upon release. I enjoy the different sound and much of the bonus material though it has a lot of redundancy with the two sequencings of the album.

 

I love Zappa but I don't have this CD.
OOT but it reminds me of XTC's first album on CD : The sequence is the A side of the album, 7 bonus tracks, and then the B side of the album.
It was the only version available for years!

 

Yep: perverse and annoying.

Unlike some, I don't object to 'bonus' tracks, as long as they are tagged at the end of the original album, so the listener can switch off, if he/she chooses, after the 'main programme'.

First world problems and all that, but having to insert a CD then skip the first couple of tracks is an avoidable irritation.

Of course, it could be argued that this just represents 'sharp practice' on the part of the Zappa estate, so that the peeved will shell out for Meat Light, in addition.

 

I have the same opinion :I still listen to CDs all the time. Bonus tracks are a fantastic feature of the format...That, and comprehensive box sets like Nuggets 2, getting a double LP on one disc etc. Many features that I still enjoy. But some coherence is welcomed...
Zappa wasn't always coherent with his back catalogue : how about the "Only in It for the Money" (with re-recorded parts and remixed) twofer with "Lumpy Gravy" (original)? That was a bit odd, even if both albums have common roots and musical themes they share. That said, it was my introduction to both albums, I knew something was off and different with the 1984 version of "...Money" but boy, did I love it anyway! I didn't have the reference of the original album (and I saw the light when I eventually heard it . The newer version was still interesting for the uncensored lyrics...it was strange for me to go backwards).

 

Meat Light is a great release & I love it to bits, but why spread "Original Sequence" over two discs, another odd "Uncle Meat" decision

 

I really like the 40 minute sound track. I removed it for normal listening (via CDR) and have it on my ipod. But I left the Tengo song in which sounds weird in there but fits the montage idea behind the whole album pretty well .

I also bought Meat Light. Now this is where people's idea about Zappa needing to remain true to 'correct' track order goes out of the window. Even Zappa didn't knwo what the track order should be, as this has the supposed original track order. I still prefer the modified track order (as actually used on the orig LP) a lot more. At least for now.

I don't really mind the Ryko disk, I'm too busy listening to the music to worry about digital reverb. But I do have the 2xLP orig and the UMe 2LP, so I can appreciate the better sound on the latter vinyl and on Meat Light.

Really, Meat is one of his two masterworks, so how anyone not have two different copies and enjoy them both?

Do you mean the breaks are audible between tracks? I have two solutions. One is to use m4a codec when you compress, which allows the iPOD to compensate for the breaks be rejoinng them on playback. (btw, gaps are a product of the mp3 file format). Secondly, and maybe better, is to join the four tracks into one before you rip it through iTunes. (Use the options/join tracks menu option. select tracks first). I do that for all proper joined-up music where tracks have been introduce, like the first Henry Cow album, Faust or Egg, for instance.

 

Being unfamiliar with most of XTC's vinyl I must say that I like having those b-sides there on their cd's. It kinda seems to work as cool intermissions and it gives the sides 2 more prominence, especially how Towers Of London kicks in after The Somnambulist on Black Sea.

 

Hence why much of the early catalogue remained untouched when the 2012 remasters appeared. They had to sell those Project/Objects (Apostrophe wasn't 'done' at that point) and UM was in the pipeline.

 

That said, it was corrected on the remastered reissues. The bonus tracks are tacked at the end.

 

What's left to get the Project/Object treatment?

 

"The rest of the lesson, I'm sorry, but you cannon learn, 'cox muter nature didn't MADE you Italian!"
Apparently, the guy also appears on that "Zappa Goes To Italy" doc that came out last year.

 

...Hot Rats!!!!!!!

 

Indeed...maybe with added live stuff?

70w

 

I don't have an issue with record companies reissuing albums that have significant improvements and or added material. Thankfully there have been comparisons made so that you don't buy anything you don't have to...

2012: What We Knew and When We Knew It

 

Not in vault.

 

...hmmm, I’ve never felt forced to buy anything (well, maybe when my cel phone starts acting funny after the latest model comes out. What a scam! Anyways...) but music?? Never. And the only albums I ever re-buy are my favorites, so it’s never a bad feeling. 100% musical enjoyment.

 

off course they are. they have digital reverb added that wasn't on the original lp, besides the remixed track.

 

I'm STILL on the fence on getting a new "Thing-Fish"!.... maybe, one day.....

Sadly, I was expecting more 'vintage-promotional-devises' on the "Meat Light" set....
I know, somewhere deep in the heart of the internet, someone put out 'radio-ads' for the album, featuring Dynamite Dick!
Perhaps, ZFT doesn't want ANY mention of those evil Warner Brothers!

 

I have Uncle Meat on original vinyl...found it about 7 years ago at GW but this thread makes me want to get Meat Light.

I do enjoy hearing Jimmy Carl Black complain to Frank about the money situation.