How Do I Know If My Stereo Receiver Is Supplying My Bookshelf Speakers With Enough "Juice"

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  1. AcidPunk15

    AcidPunk15 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I "bought" monster wire from best buy it didn't say the gauge I can send you a pic of it tomorrow I think its 16 gauge
     
  2. Strat-Mangler

    Strat-Mangler Personal Survival Daily Record-Breaker

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    Don't buy Monster cables. It's a complete rip-off. Just a tip.
     
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  3. curbach

    curbach Some guy on the internet

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    As you are in Austin, I'd suggest you keep an eye on the Clearance/Consignment listings at Audio Systems once you are ready to buy. They often have some good deals there.
     
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  4. AcidPunk15

    AcidPunk15 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I had bought in air quotes I know, I heard blue jeans speaker wire is good
     
  5. JohnO

    JohnO Senior Member

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    Let's not go off track on this thread. Your Monster wire is ok for now. Monster stuff is generally ok, just way overpriced. Speaker wire types (not brands) is a different discussion and can make a tiny difference with high end equipment with critical ears, and not something you need to worry about now.
     
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  6. stereoptic

    stereoptic Anaglyphic GORT Staff

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    This is true, however I have seen it deeply discounted in recent years.

    @Kevin Rachman - you may have already corrected this since you posted that first picture of your speaker connection, but if you notice how some of the wire strands are sticking out from the input connection? Try to avoid having even 1 strand sticking out. If it comes in contact with another strand, it MAY blow out your amp. Most modern receivers have circuitry that can turn themselves off before this happens. I am not sure if your's can, but just a word to the wise.
     
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  7. AcidPunk15

    AcidPunk15 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Im listening to The Beatles Something New and its sounds amazing. The Bass is great sounds like its correct!!! Thanks Again Guys!!!
     
  8. jtw

    jtw Forum Resident

    I'm confused. In this thread, the OP and posters have concluded that the speakers were out of phase. Above is the original post. Should correcting an out of phase issue really fixed the problem? Shouldn't they have sounded wrong all of the time, instead of just sometimes, on certain records, at high volumes?
     
  9. SirMarc

    SirMarc Forum Resident

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    I think he was comparing the sound to his friends Bluetooth speakers
     
  10. jtw

    jtw Forum Resident

    No, he was talking about his system. So my question is still whether correcting the phase issue should have fixed the problem stated in the original post.
     
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  11. jtw

    jtw Forum Resident

    Kevin, what did you mean by checking the alignment of your turntable? What kind of cartridge (needle) are you using? Is it new, or did it come with the used turntable? Have you ever cleaned the stylus (needle)? If so, how? Do you know how to set the tracking force correctly? What method did you use to set the overhang?

    I had these exact same questions for my nephew, who is new to turntables also. His responses were: What? Huh? New. What? Huh? What? What?. So don't feel bad if you have similar answers. Folks are here to help.
     
  12. AcidPunk15

    AcidPunk15 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I've been listening to my system for a month I set it up before I left for winter break. My speakers were out of phase I fixed that. I have a Sony LX 350 I cant change my tonearm height so my tonearm hangs very low to the actual vinyl like literally a cm or two. I finally figured out how to balance my tonearm. My turntable is cheap I have read on here that the tonearm cannot handle the weight of the cartridge so it will sag. I assume your gonna tell me to buy a cartridge that weights less.

    I used a print out of an alignment tool from vinyl engine, but I doubt its perfect. I clean the stylus with a magic eraser. I don't use any fluid. I have a Shure V15 Type III the stylus isn't original it came with a used SL-3350 that I bought for $40. I think I doubled or tripled my money by the selling the parts individually. I still have the cartridge from the TT buy.

    I meant my tonearm wasn't balanced my bad I sometimes write these in the wee hours of the night (morning)
     
  13. Strat-Mangler

    Strat-Mangler Personal Survival Daily Record-Breaker

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    The higher volume would exacerbate the inherent issues, I'd think.
     
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  14. jtw

    jtw Forum Resident

    I still think something is really not quite right. The V15 III isn't a heavy cartridge. Are you sure you set up your tracking force correctly? Recommended tracking force is 0.75-1.50g. I seriously doubt if that arm will be able to work with the low end of the range. If you change the position of the cartridge in the head shell (overhang), you'd have to start all over again.

    I just went through all of this stuff with my nephew. There's no way your table is going to sound as good as a thrift store cd player. I'd still recommend getting one to help you get kinda close. Lots of hype about vinyl...
     
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  15. AcidPunk15

    AcidPunk15 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Like I have said on this forum many times I don't know if I have seen it, but I when I get a job I'm going to upgrade my system. I will also buy that 160+ cd player that everyone says is like the ELAC B6's of speakers.
     
  16. SirMarc

    SirMarc Forum Resident

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    Just looked at your profile. Pick up a spool of Monoprice 14 guage ofc copper speaker wire. Its cheap and good enough wire for now, and will sound a good amount better than what you're using now. The sound will fill out a bit and you'll get better bass

    Edit: 23 bucks on Amazon for 50'
     
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  17. AcidPunk15

    AcidPunk15 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Thx yah I have heard their great is Blue Jeans Speaker Wire comparable.
     
  18. jtw

    jtw Forum Resident

    Setting up the turntable you own correctly is free. The video I attached shows you how to do it. Your V15 III shouldn't be too heavy for your turntable.

    Your cables are fine.

    Your late night posts are killing you.
     
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  19. AcidPunk15

    AcidPunk15 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    When I balanced tonearm the overhang is very low. Should I compensate by having the tonearm balanced slightly upward
     
  20. SirMarc

    SirMarc Forum Resident

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    Bluejeans wire and cable is better, but don't worry about that right now. Get the turntable sorted out first, then get thicker gauge speaker wire. I'd do 14 gauge like I told you about earlier, you're starving those speakers with 18 gauge wire. Watch the video the poster above sent, or even better, ask around. Maybe a relative or friends relative has experience and can help you. You never know
     
  21. jtw

    jtw Forum Resident

    OK. I'll bite.... When I talk about setting overhang, I'm talking about setting the position of your V15 III in the head shell using that alignment tool. Read the instructions carefully, be patient, and get it right. NOW, balance your arm using the video. Check other Youtube videos if this one isn't perfectly clear. Set your tracking force and antiskate.

    What tracking force are you trying to use?

    One really, really has to consider what the power of suggestion is doing, when folks can buy a cheap used turntable, plop on a cartridge of unknown condition, set up the overhang and tracking force wrong, and play questionable vinyl with the speakers wired out of phase, and it still sounds better than digital.

    Sounds exactly like my nephew.
     
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  22. AcidPunk15

    AcidPunk15 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    When I balance a tonearm my overhang should be correct or are you talking about the thing when you test where the stylus goes on that tool.
     
  23. Strat-Mangler

    Strat-Mangler Personal Survival Daily Record-Breaker

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    I think you'd be doing yourself a huge favor if you'd take the time to research the terms, what they mean, and how they apply. Calibrating this stuff half-blind isn't conducive to ending with a great result, IMHO.

    We all start somewhere but not having even a basic understanding is *really* hurting you.

    We're all in your corner but I think you need to do a bit of solid homework on this subject. There's tons of info everywhere including YouTube tutorials and lessons.
     
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  24. AcidPunk15

    AcidPunk15 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    there is no place that has these terms listed and explained that would be a good thread idea.
     
  25. Strat-Mangler

    Strat-Mangler Personal Survival Daily Record-Breaker

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    There are tons of them. Do a few Google searches. They're everywhere.
     
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