Listenin' to Classical Music and Conversation

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by bluemooze, Feb 22, 2017.

  1. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    CT, USA
    Now playing CD2 from the following twofer, which just arrived yesterday for a first listen ...

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    I have another version of the Beethoven Violin Sonatas by Martha Argerich and Gidon Kremer ...

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  2. cdgenarian

    cdgenarian Forum Resident

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    Don't hear much about Eugene Ormandy anymore. Used to be America's go-to guy, wasn't he?
     
  3. bluemooze

    bluemooze Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
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    Now listening to "Schumann - Symphonies Nos. 1 & 2" from the "Karajan - Symphony Edition" with the Berliner Philharmoniker on DG.

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  4. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    CT, USA
    @crispi, Are you familiar with this ZYX Classics record label? It is supposed to be a German company. I picked up this CD twofer years ago from somewhere ...

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  5. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    I still have a good number of his LP's and a more limited number of CD's ...

    Sony released a box for Ormandy a number of years ago. The box only has about 10 CD's and is now impossibly expensive. Not sure why we have not seen a 30 or 40-CD box yet ... :confused:
     
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  6. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    Before the Fantasy group of (non-classical) labels was sold to Concord, ZYX was its licensee for Germany; they remastered several jazz recordings and made a real mess of it, their 20-bit jazz remasters are a disaster. I don't know how their other releases sound.

    ZYX Music - Wikipedia
     
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  7. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    CT, USA
    Thanks for the link. Looks like the classical music released by ZYX may be a few rungs below Naxos ...
     
  8. Thomas R

    Thomas R Forum Resident

    Location:
    Sweden
    I have a lot of Ormandy on CD and I listened to this 3-disc set today, a Japanese release. A pity Sony didn't include the terrific sixth from 1951.
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  9. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    While I am not @crispi, only for works by Aaron Copland would I automatically turn to an American conductor/orchestra. My classical music collection is heavily Euro-centric. Most of my Bernstein's recordings were by the VPO, not the NYPO ...
     
  10. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    I wouldn't be surprised if we'd see a huge Ormandy box in the not-too-distant future, like the big Szell box that will be released by Sony in August - though hopefully not too huge, I'd be happy with a box with Ormandy's orchestral and concert recordings only.
     
  11. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    So you like the Philly sound with Ormandy at the helm?
     
  12. crispi

    crispi Vinyl Archaeologist

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    Berlin
    I read Karajan adored Szell, and despised Ormandy. He said it was on artistic grounds, but I believe I remember there was some personal thing involved there.

    I personally was never attracted to Ormandy’s recordings.
     
  13. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    I wouldn't say it was my favourite US orchestra when Ormandy was its principal conductor, but the combination grew on me over the years - not top-tier, but not bad either. Not as good as Szell/Cleveland, for instance, I far prefer that combination.
     
  14. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    CT, USA
    I only have a limited number of Szell/Cleveland recordings. But the Beethoven Symphonies by Bruno Walter/Columbia Symphony have become one of my favorites ...

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  15. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    According to the biography Karajan - A life in Music by Richard Osborne, Karajan had a lot of admiration for Toscanini as well. I only have the Beethoven Symphonies on RCA by Toscanini and a Wagner recording, his only stereo recording in my collection ...
     
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  16. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    Many of Walter's orchestral recordings are fine, but he belonged to an older generation of conductors (born 1876, died 1962), with a more romantic style of conducting. Szell (1897-1970) was a more modern conductor in that respect.
     
  17. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    It was probably politics ...
     
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  18. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    I remember the news on the radio that Toscanini had died, in 1957. He was a monument so to speak and, even though he rarely conducted in Europe anymore, people respected him greatly. Later that year Sibelius died, I also remember that news… You never forget some events, even at a young age; I was 9-10 at the time.
     
  19. tensummoner

    tensummoner wish i had a nickle.. thats it just wish i had 1

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    great topic, as most are literally throwing classical out the door. Virtually anything with Rachmaninoff or Nathan Milstein gets playtime in my collection. Yesterday I was listening to The Light Brigade ( Felix Slatkin conducting) and then Bugler's Dream came on. I said wow that's the Olympic's theme now.
     
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  20. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    CT, USA
    How do you like this Beethoven box? I zipped through the box but maybe more critical listening is needed ...

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  21. 5-String

    5-String μηδὲν ἄγαν

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    Szell was a good conductor apparently but I never got overly excited by his conducting. He just doesn't do it for me. I guess, If I had to choose some of his recordings that I found mildly interesting I would choose his Schumann with Cleveland and his Haydn.
     
  22. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    It's been a while since I last listened to any of his Beethoven, but as far as non-HIP performances go it's right up my alley. I must add that Beethoven's 9th Symphony is not really a favourite of mine, regardless of who is conducting.
     
  23. 5-String

    5-String μηδὲν ἄγαν

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    Sacrilege!!! :D
     
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  24. cdgenarian

    cdgenarian Forum Resident

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  25. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    Oh sure, and Ode an die Freude - Alle Menschen werden Brüder is the unofficial EU anthem of course, but still... :)
     
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