A Small Victory For Audiophiles! - No Compression, No Limiting!

A Small Victory For Audiophiles!

The Motown remaster of Teena Marie's 1980 album "It Must Be Magic" was released Tuesday. The reissue was produced by Harry Weigner and remastered by Suha Gur.

Well guess what, NO compression or limiting was used!

Here is a screenshot of track 7, "Cradle Rob And Me".

 

I wonder if there's any difference between versions?

Not that I am a fan of Marie, but I'm wondering if they bothered to get up to kill this mastering at all?

Nice taskbar, Grant! Ooof! The TSRs!

 

Don't worry, it's not the PC with my main DAW.

Although HW says they do not use compression, I'd like to think that Ken KcKlinden and I had some influence on the Motown board, where HW is the moderator.

 

Grant,

I hope that you and Ken did influence the outcome. Now, if you can only talk Harry into a Super Mono box set!

Bob

 

It's still in the brainstorming phase, but I seriously think HW is going to put something into action with a plan to relaese ALL singles and B-sides.

 

Grant,

That would be fantastic! (As I get ready to dig deep into my wallet)

Keep after him - we need this type of release from Motown!

Bob

 

Grant, what software did you use to do the screen grab? Anyone know of any good (free) software that does this?

 

Grant FWIW I noticed you have Zone Alarm on your computer. I removed it from mine and only removed the shared files dealing with zonealarm. Next thing I knew I couldn't access the internet. Don't know if it was ZA or a fluke.

Anyway like I said FWIW

 

Zone Alarm for the most part is a big joke.

Larry, possibly what happened is 1/2 of ZA possibly built up a proxy, and you removed what uses 1/2 of the protocol, or most of it.

To screen grab, you have a key to the right of F12 called PrintScreen. If you hit it, go to either MS paint or your favorite graphic software and choose paste or Ctrl+V.

 

I'm not Grant, but, just hitting the "Print Scrn" button will copy the current screen to the Windows Clipboard. Then just open your favorite image editor and something like "Paste as new Image" should be available in the Edit pulldown (which Paint or MS Office's Photo Editor will have).

In Photoshop, create a new image (which will default to the current screen resolution) and Paste - then you can resize as needed.

Joel

 

Thanks, Joel

 

I find Sygate Free is far better than Zone Alarm:

http://soho.sygate.com/products/shield_ov.htm

 

I had heard about that. I always leave shared files.

 

A reissue from a major label finally comes out with no compression or limiting, and no one is interested?????

 

Grant,

Do you want me to add - "No compression or limiting" to the thread title?

I can go that!

Bob

 

Yeah, see if it works.

 

I think that the more "important" the artist is, and depending on how many times a specific title has been remastered, the more obvious the digital trickery is.
Most of the major artist's catalogs and albums are on at least their third remastering. The first was when the CD was first issued, usually between 1982/1986. The second was in the late 80's/early 90's, when all of a sudden labels realized that much of their CD catalog had been mastered from 8th generation copy tapes. The third is when "20 bit remastering from the original tapes" stickers started appearing on CDs, in the late 90's. Now, obviously the labels have to find some way to make the latest, greatest re-re-remastering sound "better" and the way to do this is to fry the signal by running it through some limiting,compressing,maximizing gizmo.
I think there are still a few people at the major labels, and Harry Weinger is one of them, who DO care about turning out quality product. In a way, they HAVE to get it right the first time, since there probably will never be a remastered version of "Cellarful Of Motown", for example.

 

Well, Teena Marie is/was an important artist...

 

I hope you're right, Grant

 

In the case of Dave Brubeck's "Time Out" it has been mastered on some digital format at least 4 times already:
The 1980s CD
The Sony Mastersound gold disc
the HDCD
the SACD

 

Do you really mean ALL?!? Do you know how many Stax/Volt type boxes that would take(took them three!). L-U-V the idea...

ED

 

Sure, it's nice, but there are tons of CDs out there without compression or limiting. It's not as if this is really something "new"...

 

Alt + Print Screen

You very rarely want the whole screen - but you often want to capture the current window. Use Alt+Print Screen to save the current window to the clipboard. A good craftsman uses the right tools.

Regards,
Geoff

 

I've never heard of her, but that's understandable as I am a novice when it comes to R&B.

Since the name did not ring any bells with me I looked her up on allmusic. The bit about "When her second album, Lady T, came out, much of the R&B world was shocked to see how fair-skinned she was" was very interesting.

Is that why you say she is/was important?

Regards,
Geoff