Acoustic Sounds taking pre-orders on Dark Side SACD

Reassuring. Glad it's not just another rumor on the internet.

 

I ordered mine last night after they sent the E-mail. Gee, I coulda started this thread! See what being busy does? You got to do it instead!

ED

 

I was gonna too. However, it's not "out" yet!

I'm hopeful for this release. Let's hope good things come of it.

 

How could it *not* be (re)mastered?

 

My order is going in right now...

Get ready to do an A/B comparison with MoFi's UD1...since it's the best available thusfar...

 

I don't know. I think the UDII is...


Just kidding!

 

What is the reason for pre-ordering if you are in the US? Wouldn't you think that on the March 3rd release day the brick and mortars would have lots of copies?

 

I'll bet this will sound fantastic. Are SACD and DVD-A players really worth the investment? (No, I haven't justified the purchase of a DVD player yet.) Besides, I have too much fun spending my clams on CDs and now, LPs again!

 

I can't wait to match up against my DTS version.

Bet it will sound better but that DTS version is damn fun!

 

Honestly, I don't understand this one. Would someone from Canada be willing to send me a CD-R of ECHOES, and I'll send you a CD-R of what I've got. I think you guys might've got the shaft, with additional tampering after Doug Sax' mastering work. The tracks from Division Bell appear to be less compressed than the original disc, all the others are louder, but the waveforms are nearly identical to the MFSL discs. I DID see a screen shot of Comfortably Numb that looked compressed (brick wall limited, specifically), but it was also a disc from outside the U.S.
Either that or post some screen shots of the waveforms off a Canadian disc, and I'll try and learn how to post screenshots of the American CD waveforms. I think it sounds fine, whereas Dave and Gary strongly disagree. Like a reverse of the Canadian WHO'S NEXT situation. Could be I'm deaf, but me hopes not

 

I'll be a pest. If they use the same master (used for the current CD's on the shelves) for the redbook layer then it's not newly "re"-mastered (it would be an older remaster). Now for the stereo/5.1 SACD layer. The album will be mastered for SACD for the first time, so it won't be a "re"-master (only if they master the album again for a future SACD release). Sometimes "coined" phrases become confusing...

 

It just says "multichannel", but I hope EMI will include a SACD stereo version.

 

I dunno, if the Echoes album sounds anywhere near the Echoes Sampler I have, the MoFi has nothing to be concerned about.

I really do hope the mastering is better on the new SACD, but until I hear the reviews here, my MFSL won't be in the Classifieds.

 

I thought that "remastering" meant doing a new transfer from the master tapes. Since DSOTM has never been on SACD before, it would by definition *have* to be remastered (transfer the analog master tape to DSD) in order to appear on SACD.

The CD layer could easily contain the same transfer as earliers CDs (though those in themselves were remasters from the analog tapes to redbook format). I think it's been advertised that the CD layer will be remastered as well, however.

Any time you make a new "production" copy (redbook, DSD, hi-res PCM, etc.) from the original (or copy) master tape, that's a remaster.

Ryan

 

Gary,
I think that you'll find some Canadian B&M locations (not HMV!!!) will have DSOTM at prices lower than the US price + postage + conversion (such as Best Buy (maybe), Edward's Books & Music). I've bought all my DVD-A's and SACD's from these two retailers and it's cheaper than anything online from the US.

The unfortunate (and puzzling) thing with Steve's CCR discs is that it seems to be a big artist on an almost non-existent label (at least here in Canada). I find it quite strange that I can get many other non-Sony SACD's in Canada and not these. I had to order the Zombies SACD from Red Trumpet. After conversion and postage, it cost a bit (but well worth it for the sound). Have you seen the CCR discs in Canada at a B&M store?? The only reason to get DSOTM from the States will be if a similar situation to the Stones discs occurs (where it didn't show up in Canada at domestic prices for about 3 months). I don't see that happening with DSOTM. Just don't use HMV as your baseline.

Cliff

 

I may be wrong (always open to that) but I see it as mastering. Like: The Beatles 'Help!' mastered for SACD by Steve and Grant. I think of re-mastered as a selling term as if its better than the previous master, etc.

Todd

 

Were the metal parts then dumped?

 

Forgive my slow intake today but if the stereo SACD layer (of 'DSOTM') is mastered from the the "original" master tape, would it be technically mastered or remastered? Mastered by JG (should be SH but hopefully one day soon) or remastered by JG...

 

That makes sense, I guess.

I think the usage of the word really got crazy when CDs came out and everything was "DIGITALLY REMASTERED!"

Well, duh. Haven't seen an analog CD yet.

I think the DVD-Video term "transfer" is actually more useful, especially when dealing with analog sources. "Remaster" invites confusion with "master tape," and you end up with sentences like "This remaster was remastered from the original master, not like the previous remaster which was mastered by Ted Jensen."

Ryan

 

It depends on whether the "re" means it's been mastered before in *that* medium, or in *any* medium. If it's the former, then the first SACD transfer would be a "mastering" job, while any new SACD transfers in the future would be "remasters." If the latter, then every new transfer of the original tapes since 1973 has been a "remaster."

The term's been hyped into meaningless, anyway...

Ryan